Nah this J Cole "I did it all myself no features I did the production , I rapped every song, I wrote every song" s*** got to end just give us the best art I rather you collaborate with humans
stop acting like collaborating with humans takes ANYTHING AWAY FROM YOUR F***ING ART ITS NOT AI
Yall dont realize by working like tyler does also lessens the burden of your overall budget for an album and increases the returns you get from said music cause it’s less hands that gotta split the pie up.
It’s also a reason why if the artist can directly tell live musicians SPECIFICALLY what to play (whether via scoresheets shoutout to musescore or finale, or just playing out thr notes) it also streamlines the recording process, it’ll take way less hours which means it wont be as expensive
Versus “just play whatever you feel man” dawg all my brass playing homies be CARRYING some of these sessions.
aye man please stfu
bro cant live without being the center of attention on here for a single day
Capital Steez
Pop Smoke
Juice Wrld
XXXTentacion
Flatbush Zombies
Underachievers
and so many more clear him in rapping his art is dope but there are artist with a FRACTION OF THE BUDGET THAT ARE DOPE
WHO DONT SELL OR CREATE PRODUCT LINES
WHO ARENT CONNECTED TO PHARRELL, TYLER THE CREATOR AND MORE
YALL NEED TO BE FOR REAL SOME TIMES
Flatbush zombies and underachievers werent that crazy lmao
you continuously telling a victim of pedophilia that they defended a statutory rapist because you a whole b**** isnt going to end well for you
you guys brought up Tyga to troll LPG a woman to get her to be quiet when again she isnt a fan of Tyga she is a fan of the victim Kylie
:)
Flatbush zombies and underachievers werent that crazy lmao
I am saying with the right funding many can out do Tyler
bro cant live without being the center of attention on here for a single day
you going to be in the center of something real soon dont worry :)
they keep trying to turn Kanye into Travis Scott
Which is so weird cause literally EVERYONE involved with MBDTF has said verbatim how ye had all the ideas.
They're kinda evenly matched
Tyler a slightly better rapper, Bino a better singer.
Tyler a better producer, Bino a more versatile artist
What it comes down for me is that I think Bino is just a better writer overall and just knows how to write about more serious topics in a more organic way. Like Tyler can't make a baby boy, flight of navigator, urn, the violence to me
as a major stan of both, gambino has had higher artistic highs but tyler is more consistent, music-wise. gambino got hits that are truly timeless
Which is so weird cause literally EVERYONE involved with MBDTF has said verbatim how ye had all the ideas.
this why i dont wanna collab w niggas when i really get matured musically lmao
you get a couple of musicians in the studio and niggas wanna start lying and saying you got carried by ur team
nonsense
Flower Boy saved Tyler’s career full stop
tyler’s career without flower boy would be where vince staples and schoolboy q are rn unfortunately
Yall dont realize by working like tyler does also lessens the burden of your overall budget for an album and increases the returns you get from said music cause it’s less hands that gotta split the pie up.
It’s also a reason why if the artist can directly tell live musicians SPECIFICALLY what to play (whether via scoresheets shoutout to musescore or finale, or just playing out thr notes) it also streamlines the recording process, it’ll take way less hours which means it wont be as expensive
Versus “just play whatever you feel man” dawg all my brass playing homies be CARRYING some of these sessions.
He does work really really hard I posted my Chromakopia listens and will do so again
but his work would be better helped if he collaborated with more artist so it doesnt come and go as this album did even if its my top album by him
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Mind you I shouldnt have to post my listens of Tyler or Kendrick for yall to understand a basic level of discussion but I do because yall worship these artist and act like you yourself worked on the art when you did not
Op is spitting. I love Tyler but it’s wild how much of a media/critic darling he’s become post flower boy, it doesn’t come off as genuine. I enjoy his last two albums for what it’s worth though
you can always tell which rapper the white people have signed off as “one of the good ones” and it’s gross every time
Does he have a Nights? Or a Bad Habits? F***ing even Brockhampton has had more iconic songs this past decade
I wouldnt give a s*** if he had hits if he was an Earl like rapper, but he gets profiled as a commercial powerhouse. A household name.
WusYaName jersey club was literally playing at Nowadays this past weekend Ima need yall to get out yall bubbles man lol
Capital Steez
Pop Smoke
Juice Wrld
XXXTentacion
Flatbush Zombies
Underachievers
and so many more clear him in rapping his art is dope but there are artist with a FRACTION OF THE BUDGET THAT ARE DOPE
WHO DONT SELL OR CREATE PRODUCT LINES
WHO ARENT CONNECTED TO PHARRELL, TYLER THE CREATOR AND MORE
YALL NEED TO BE FOR REAL SOME TIMES
Now you’re just trolling condom eyes
they keep trying to turn Kanye into Travis Scott
As a fan of everyone in this convo it’s very interesting how this site don’t be giving Travis that same smoke they do for them other niggas.
Like Travis music but how much does he actually contribute
And Utopia at times was more stagnant sonically than Tyler’s recent outings as well lol
WusYaName jersey club was literally playing at Nowadays this past weekend Ima need yall to get out yall bubbles man lol
Youngboy cleared
Now you’re just trolling condom eyes
no I am deadass in the sense they rap better. If they get the right production connections, If they get the right support you think its impossible other artist put as much of themselves into the music?
Op is spitting. I love Tyler but it’s wild how much of a media/critic darling he’s become post flower boy, it doesn’t come off as genuine. I enjoy his last two albums for what it’s worth though
Thank you
i feel like the lack of placements Tyler has had in his contemporaries’ albums halts him from ever being on the level of a Ye or P. i feel tyler’s production sounds good for tyler, but outside of his music i don’t like hearing his beats under other artists. that new track he had with maxi had such a s*** beat
He does work really really hard I posted my Chromakopia listens and will do so again
but his work would be better helped if he collaborated with more artist so it doesnt come and go as this album did even if its my top album by him
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Mind you I shouldnt have to post my listens of Tyler or Kendrick for yall to understand a basic level of discussion but I do because yall worship these artist and act like you yourself worked on the art when you did not
I mean no one’s asking you to post your listens you just do it lol
And I’m just saying there’s financial reasons why one wouldnt want to do that. I agree that imagine some d’angelo features would be great over take your mask off or like him.
As a fan of everyone in this convo it’s very interesting how this site don’t be giving Travis that same smoke they do for them other niggas.
Like Travis music but how much does he actually contribute
And Utopia at times was more stagnant sonically than Tyler’s recent outings as well lol
Travis is by far the worst major rapper out right now (not including c***rappers and dave blunts types)
I mean no one’s asking you to post your listens you just do it lol
And I’m just saying there’s financial reasons why one wouldnt want to do that. I agree that imagine some d’angelo features would be great over take your mask off or like him.
I do it because yall invalidate anyone opinion who doesnt fit with your own.
That is how the harassment started in the first place....