Free YoungBoy

1y

Free @vicesvotive @BlackAndMildSauce and @edumist

Valentine

1y

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TheFader

1y

Would those songs and beats exist in their current state without Kanye’s involvement yes or no

notbrock

1y

Nope

Would they exist in their current state without the producers who made them and worked on them?

TheFader

1y

Yes, Kanye would just find other producers capable of executing the ideas in the same fashion

Mike Dean isn’t the only person in the world who can perform a guitar solo

TheFader

1y

Yes, Kanye would just find other producers capable of executing the ideas in the same fashion

Mike Dean isn’t the only person in the world who can perform a guitar solo

notbrock

1y

This is what I’m talking about

You just discredited every producer on MBDTF and said it was all Kanye. Disrespectful as f*** tbh

Kinda funny how Kanye’s new music is sounding these days without Mike and the boys tho

lucky star

1y

ppl on here were damn near crucifying me the day chromokopia dropped and i said it was his most recycled unsinpired stuff yet

notbrock

1y

Why do you keep telling me I’ve never been in a studio environment when I have? I understand the process of bouncing ideas around very well

I keep repeating that because I’m just talking about who made the f***ing beats on the album man. Kanye gets all the credit for everything his name is on and the actual beat makers and musicians responsible for the music get left out. Kanye’s ideas to add in samples, Layers, Beat switches, outros etc. are great but mean absolutely nothing if the producers he was working with couldn’t do it

Bink threw a tantrum about it a couple years back because he made one of the greatest beats oat and no one gave a f*** about him and gave Ye all the credit. Hudson Mohawke also said he did most of the work on FSMH but basically got no recognition because Kanye had metro slap a hi hat and his tag on it. Metro himself confirmed this and basically said Kanye just wanted his tag on it

Oblivion X

1y

I mean this doesn't change that ye was still heavily involved in both the production and recording process. The same way people downplay the beat makers contribution, ur downplaying ye contributions

TheFader

1y

I didn’t discredit them, I said they didn’t come up with the IDEAS

The idea is what Kanye is getting credit for.

Said idea can be executed by any talented musician

There’s no way you took that as me discrediting the musicians

notbrock

1y

That’s not how it works tho

Kanye never came up with the idea to make POWER until S1 showed him the beat

S1 made that beat. He found the sample and the drum break. Kanye took that and built on it. He added the King Crimson sample, He had Mike Dean add the guitars and Bass, He had Jeff Basker work on the outro

That song would not exist without S1 presenting him the foundation to build on

Free YoungBoy

1y

Free @vicesvotive @BlackAndMildSauce and @edumist

Oblivion X

1y

I mean this doesn't change that ye was still heavily involved in both the production and recording process. The same way people downplay the beat makers contribution, ur downplaying ye contributions

notbrock

1y

I’m not tho

Im saying they’re equally important. One wouldn’t exist without the other

Other dude literally just said all the guys Ye works with don’t matter at all which is absolutely crazy

TheFader

1y

Again, would the song exist in its’ current form without Kanye’s contributions yes or no

What you’re doing is indirectly discrediting every rap producer who’s ever sampled a song btw

notbrock

1y

I’m not tho

Im saying they’re equally important. One wouldn’t exist without the other

Other dude literally just said all the guys Ye works with don’t matter at all which is absolutely crazy

notbrock

1y

Guys I can literally pull up the track list, Credits and interviews with other producers who worked on the album to show who did what on almost all the songs

I think it’s cool Ye surrounded himself with elite level producers and musicians to put the album together. Clearly he had a vision bigger than what most other artists have and it shows. I agree I would like to see more of that

But again as far as the actual production on the album, The beats. He did very little

notbrock

1y

My brother in Christ it wouldn’t exist in its current form without Kanye, S1, Mike Dean and Jeff Bhasker all contributing to it