I have spent all year saying that I dont care if 18 is "legal" that there should be a law against age gaps and you are trying to paint me as pro pedophile on CHRISTMAS ANd WONdERING WHY dEATH THREATS OCCUR
I personally think Chromakopia was one of Tyler’s weaker albums but am interested in his commitment to self production
So do you agree that Tyga should be in jail?
I dont believe in the prison or jail system is good rehabillitation for human beings I have said this many times and volunteer outside cook county jail
I dont believe in the prison or jail system is good rehabillitation for human beings I have said this many times and volunteer outside cook county jail
So you want a law that bans age gaps, but you can't answer this simple question:
do you believe that Tyga should be in jail?
stop being c***s though @Quinton has something to say
Sorry the upstanding black man calls the police on a black man for reacting to a woman or trans user evoking the sucking of a phallus in response to said user defending themselves from jokes about their very real ideation of suicide
evoking the sucking of a phallus
like when I look and as soon as I get zeeted people are basically like "thank god we can stop pretending to care about the topic "
Because I am still waiting on what tyler album is better than becaue the internet with 0 responses
I am still waiting for someone top ost thteir apple music and show more hours listened than i
I aint seeing it @sab

you want to know why cause these niggas do even listen to music
@BlackAndMildSauce im asking for a simple yes or no, not no professor type of answer dawg
like when I look and as soon as I get zeeted people are basically like "thank god we can stop pretending to care about the topic "
Because I am still waiting on what tyler album is better than becaue the internet with 0 responses
I am still waiting for someone top ost thteir apple music and show more hours listened than i
I aint seeing it @sab

you want to know why cause these niggas do even listen to music
what else have you been listening to this year who cares about tyler
So you want a law that bans age gaps, but you can't answer this simple question:
do you believe that Tyga should be in jail?
I DONT BELIEVE IN THE JAIL SYSTEM
WHAT IS UNCLEAR
I am not doing your bait question
I believe he should pay a fine, donate to a cause, volunteer to make the world a better place
jail prison death penalty do not help the central issues at play
I am not forcing myself to say what you want
if you find yourself forcing people to align with your beliefs you move just like a rapist would.....
I DONT BELIEVE IN THE JAIL SYSTEM
WHAT IS UNCLEAR
I am not doing your bait question
I believe he should pay a fine, donate to a cause, volunteer to make the world a better place
jail prison death penalty do not help the central issues at play
I am not forcing myself to say what you want
if you find yourself forcing people to align with your beliefs you move just like a rapist would.....
@BlackAndMildSauce im asking for a simple yes or no, not no professor type of answer dawg
yes you are forcing a loaded question to fit your confirmation bias rather than allowing a non binary nigga to discuss a topic
just like a rapist would.
are you for or against modern slavery its a yes or no question?
Nigga shut your corny ass up
So I’ve listened to all of Tyler’s consensus best material and imo he’s one of the most overrated rappers out rn. This thread is made because I genuinely want to understand what makes him a great artist to those that enjoy him
He’s literally one of the only artist I’ve ever seen that has been largely carried by their relationships within the industry and how they’re perceived by their peers as well as having a very dedicated fanbase yet no amazing records or universal hits to really show for it. Like logically he’s the natural successor of the lineage of Ye, Pharrell, etc. but it’s not translating the way it should be, like at all. To make matters worse it’s not like his sound needs to grow on you either it’s pretty standard alt-rap
His production is good despite it being imitative but he is just not a good composer and has an issue with being over-ambitious with a clear reluctancy to cutting out the excess fat. Almost every song on Chromakopia is a chore to get through and fits better in context of the album than as individual singles because of how over the top they are. Like Sticky is such a lay up of a hit but it’s just too busy of a f***ing song to listen to on a regular basis
Also, I don’t think him self-producing most of his albums is as a good of a thing as he gets credited for. You can’t make MBDTF or TPAB by self-producing everything. At some point the sound becomes trite and outsourcing to better or other creative minds is a good thing and a fresher take on your artistry
He has a great rapping voice and is a pretty solid rapper but when he tries to switch it up and sing he’s been reliant on the crutch of pitching up his vocals since Flower Boy instead of just taking singing lessons at this point. It’s jarring as f*** to hear that every time he tries to hit notes, I’d rather he use different vocal effects to make it sound less grating
Realistically most users on this site should be a fan of his or at least feel positively about his music but he occupies this awkward space of being too weird for the casuals and not good enough to satisfy the high-brows. He doesn’t have a plethora of hit songs or classic rap albums that are universally appraised or songs that stick on the charts that justify the praise either. Kanye is basically his predecessor and even though he’s generally seen as an artist whose fans are mostly on the “artsy/nerdy” side, he has hits and projects that transcend his demographic. I can bet that most old heads know a Travis Scott song or two and casuals love his albums so there’s no reason why Tyler’s music shouldn’t have a similar affect to some degree
I do think he has the makings of a great artist but he’s put on an extremely high pedestal that I don’t think he’s deserving of
EDIT: Quite a number of folks ITT are misconstruing what I meant by “carried” by other artists, so I’ll add my response here:
He didn’t make it this far by piggybacking off of his relationships, he did it off his own merit. Despite this, his relationships to respected artists has embellished his career without a doubt. Be it OF producing Earl, Frank, The Internet, Steve Lacy + more or his proximity to Pharrell, Rocky, Mac Miller, Solange, etc. all of these connects have benefited his career through osmosis because it feels like he SHOULD be amongst the biggest in the game even if the music hasn’t quite reached the level of those that are from a cultural standpoint. I mean, his friends are universally loved so why wouldn’t he be?
Not only that but his devout fanbase is probably a melting pot of his own fans, remnants of OF’s fanbase and fans of these other artists that adore him
The nigga music just hard bro
If you don’t get it it’s not for you
what else have you been listening to this year who cares about tyler
Snoh Aalegrra
MIA
Tanerelle
FKA Twigs
Weeknd( Discography relisten)
Lupe Fiasco
Boldy James
nxwrries
Flylo( back when he was fire)
Adele( I need a tour)
Vince Staples
Flatbush Zombies
many more
someone tells you they are a prison abolitionist and you like "what about in this situation"
NO I AM A PRISON ABOLITIONIST
AS IS THE NATIONNAL LAWYERS GUILD THAT I AM APART OF YOU CAN READ ABOUT IT ON THEIR WEBSITE WITH THE POWER OF GOOGLE .COM
"answer the loaded question I present stop typing paragraphs on a forum"
NO.
Nigga you was typing all caps sounding like dude that was afraid that the feds was going to knock at your door.
someone tells you they are a prison abolitionist and you like "what about in this situation"
NO I AM A PRISON ABOLITIONIST
AS IS THE NATIONNAL LAWYERS GUILD THAT I AM APART OF YOU CAN READ ABOUT IT ON THEIR WEBSITE WITH THE POWER OF GOOGLE .COM
Here we go again
We banging Ghetto Techno on Xmas Day
Throw a shot back, shot back, shot back
Had to play Jarreau Of Rap for some balance
Yall cant behave for one day and have @sab come online during Christmas. Man cant even be with his family.
im in tears
Yall cant behave for one day and have @sab come online during Christmas. Man cant even be with his family.
im in tears
Tell that to @BlackAndMildSauce