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  • 1996 BRL ✊🏿
    Dec 25, 2024
    Kengi

    I count him as one of these current day artist that sell a rehashed version of the past. Like a nostalgic aesthetic to a time where nobody who listens to this music was alive. The sound isnt like the old songs but it is implying that and heavily aesthic focused.

    Plenty of pop stars like Bruno Mars, Miley Cyrus or Beyonce kinda fall under this category and tyler is kind of the rap version of this. And I do not consider that particularly interesting or creative honestly. Its more selling you the idea that Tyler is creative. Although I do think its interesting how many artists are looking back I do not think it will every make a lasting impression. Even tho of course the pop stars generate massive hits with this. Tyler does not

    But Kanye for all he is worth now has never looked back artistically. His music was always speaking to the future

    I would like to address this post, perhaps after my nap

  • Dec 25, 2024

    the idea that drake, kendrick, tyler, j cole, ye are the only talented niggas in hip hop is annoying man

  • Dec 25, 2024
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    Himothee

    “phoenix wright attorney for coons and kkk” dawggg

    I take offense to that as #blacknationalistfam im only a pheonix wright attorney for white knights and hoteps

  • Dec 25, 2024
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    insertcoolnamehere

    I take offense to that as #blacknationalistfam im only a pheonix wright attorney for white knights and hoteps

    KKK and coons love your work they want an autograph

  • Dec 25, 2024
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    OHMNI

    he has connections to Ye, Pharrell, countless women artist, Lupe Fiasco, Weeknd, Jay z, Frank Ocean

    and more I am not even saying they are features I am saying you learn from their art or their producers or something man

    you cant go the f*** in on ian and not be receptive yourself at double the age

    Exactly. He’s got the resources and the connections to get s*** shaking at a Ultra high level, he’s perfectly positioned to lead the way from a marketing standpoint, but his music just isn’t translating into that Kanye/Pharrell/Frank Ocean level that it feels like it should be.

    I said it earlier but people like the idea of Tyler The Creator more than they actually like listening to his music

  • Dec 25, 2024
    Kengi

    I count him as one of these current day artist that sell a rehashed version of the past. Like a nostalgic aesthetic to a time where nobody who listens to this music was alive. The sound isnt like the old songs but it is implying that and heavily aesthic focused.

    Plenty of pop stars like Bruno Mars, Miley Cyrus or Beyonce kinda fall under this category and tyler is kind of the rap version of this. And I do not consider that particularly interesting or creative honestly. Its more selling you the idea that Tyler is creative. Although I do think its interesting how many artists are looking back I do not think it will every make a lasting impression. Even tho of course the pop stars generate massive hits with this. Tyler does not

    But Kanye for all he is worth now has never looked back artistically. His music was always speaking to the future

    Very well put and I agree 100% tbh

    I can’t even picture what his lasting impact looks like because of this

  • Dec 25, 2024
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    OHMNI

    KKK and coons love your work they want an autograph

    F*** the money and fame the day a shawty ask me to sign a titty after a show i might shed a tear for a second

  • Dec 25, 2024
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    Himothee

    Exactly. He’s got the resources and the connections to get s*** shaking at a Ultra high level, he’s perfectly positioned to lead the way from a marketing standpoint, but his music just isn’t translating into that Kanye/Pharrell/Frank Ocean level that it feels like it should be.

    I said it earlier but people like the idea of Tyler The Creator more than they actually like listening to his music

    The numbers don't reflect that though

  • Dec 25, 2024
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    SegaDreamFlash

    The numbers don't reflect that though

    They only respect the numbers when it’s an artist they like

    And this why ktt2 gonna always be behind

  • Dec 25, 2024
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    Undecided

    As far as I can see, that dude didn’t @ you.

    You posting that knowing damn well what that’s going to start.

    Like I said, Sab having to log in on Christmas Day because yall can’t give it a break is sad.

    You guys don’t respect s***.

    I came into the thread and commented on what I was seeing, it aint that serious

  • Dec 25, 2024
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    My whole thing with this discussion is that y'all projecting narratives on to bro that simply does not exist.

    Dude has the numbers, sells out his own festivals, does great numbers when he goes on tour etc

    If people only liked the "idea of him" more than "listening to his music" this wouldn't be the case

  • Dec 25, 2024
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    1996 BRL

    You can explain your point better than this fam, c'mon homie
    We gotta get away from ' X must be a fan of Y if they hold this opinion'

    What is there to explain? It’s really the same fanbase acting up. It’s either the neo street rap fans that got into rap in 2016 or Drake stans. Cut out the gaslighting lmfao

  • Dec 25, 2024
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    Stanley Kiest

    I came into the thread and commented on what I was seeing, it aint that serious

    Thanks for proving my point.

  • Dec 25, 2024
    Undecided

    Thanks for proving my point.

    What are you crying about exactly? You more upset than him right now

  • Dec 25, 2024
    insertcoolnamehere

    They only respect the numbers when it’s an artist they like

    And this why ktt2 gonna always be behind

    S*** is crazy and lowkey annoying lol

  • Dec 25, 2024
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    btw i’m not talking about @op i’m talking about the same toxic users on here that don’t be saying s*** @CampaignSosa elemental, and @BAMSKI_backshots

  • Dec 25, 2024
    Himothee

    Exactly. He’s got the resources and the connections to get s*** shaking at a Ultra high level, he’s perfectly positioned to lead the way from a marketing standpoint, but his music just isn’t translating into that Kanye/Pharrell/Frank Ocean level that it feels like it should be.

    I said it earlier but people like the idea of Tyler The Creator more than they actually like listening to his music

    The fact that folks have a sentiment that’s there’s a gap in the market for exactly what he does speaks volumes to the fact that he’s probably not the one

  • 1996 BRL ✊🏿
    Dec 25, 2024
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    Himothee

    Exactly. He’s got the resources and the connections to get s*** shaking at a Ultra high level, he’s perfectly positioned to lead the way from a marketing standpoint, but his music just isn’t translating into that Kanye/Pharrell/Frank Ocean level that it feels like it should be.

    I said it earlier but people like the idea of Tyler The Creator more than they actually like listening to his music

    Tyler in every business meeting

    ' Old rich white guy: Look Tyler, we love you man
    But our advertisers and constituents may struggle with some of the themes mentioned in your old music

    Tyler: maaan why you bringing up old sh*t?

    Old Rich White Guy: it's readily available in 1080p & on Spotify, if it was lost media or a datpiff mixtape maybe we could scrub it, but it's impossible.
    I can find you saying the F slur or talking about the R word with America's Sweethearts & Pregnant women in just 4 clicks on my iPhone, advertisers don't like that '

  • Just peeped that new freestyle Tyler dropped. OP lost tbh

  • Dec 25, 2024
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    JeffersonSteelflex

    What is there to explain? It’s really the same fanbase acting up. It’s either the neo street rap fans that got into rap in 2016 or Drake stans. Cut out the gaslighting lmfao

    The op is not a Drake stan bro chill lol this not the thread

  • Dec 25, 2024
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    Himothee

    Exactly. He’s got the resources and the connections to get s*** shaking at a Ultra high level, he’s perfectly positioned to lead the way from a marketing standpoint, but his music just isn’t translating into that Kanye/Pharrell/Frank Ocean level that it feels like it should be.

    I said it earlier but people like the idea of Tyler The Creator more than they actually like listening to his music

    we have to ask ourselves if it was the inverse if tyler only did features since 2016 and Frank was dropping this level s*** would we still view him as the same level artist

    what if Earl?

    I can honestly say NO

    I like artist not dropping random s*** to touch gold or brand and merch deals

    S*** THAT IS THE S*** I CRITIQUE DRAKE FOR

  • SegaDreamFlash

    The op is not a Drake stan bro chill lol this not the thread

    lol i’m not even talking about him. I disagree with what he had to say but I respect his opinion

  • sponge 🧽
    Dec 25, 2024

    The Condom Eyes Bubble Is Bad

  • Dec 25, 2024
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    This thread

  • Dec 25, 2024
    JeffersonSteelflex

    btw i’m not talking about @op i’m talking about the same toxic users on here that don’t be saying s*** @CampaignSosa elemental, and @BAMSKI_backshots

    u deflecting after getting called out for clown s***. I ain’t say nothing slanderous towards Tyler in this thread

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