Exactly tho. His legislation attacked class, rather than JUST race. It wasnt stop and frisk, it wasnt f***ed up crime bills.

Same with illegal immigrants. As far as how much control he had, it was 'fuck them all', he wasnt on the front lines putting mexican children in cages.

Idk, id rather know my enemy. And id rather broad governing tactics, and to see how theyre interpreted, so the proper issues can be addressed. Rather than stop and frisk based on skin color.

This how KTT be arguing lol you not black if you don’t think like this. Is politics and this site have a lot in common

They are arguing semantics.

Got too ahead of myself with the hype for Trump being outta there

Damn I forget where I said this??

Biden has done and said racist things before and had problematic relations with white supremacists before. You won't find many politicians that haven't and you definitely can't find any that are going to be elected to national office in the US in the immediate future.

I just don't see the need to be disingenuous about it

You do realize no ones excusing either? The problem is that trumps overt racism is a lot more dangerous compared to bidens, like trump unironically tweets 13/50 and his rabid supporters eat that s*** up

I believe Biden is a step in the right direction. Trump was turning hamerics into a s*** show, that man burned a s*** ton of bridges just to lose

50k from each?

Don’t forget when he couldn’t talk s*** to white supremacy.

Trump lost, you can be critical of biden without tying the two together

Exactly, the dude was unable to do something as basic as denounce white supremacy

That’s a f***ing softball and he missed

Believe me, I don’t give a f*** about Biden, but when we’re talking about election outcomes, we have to compromise regarding which racist to vote in

I’d rather it be the one that doesn’t actively empower white supremacists

My friend we need to break this down. It is illegal(At least in 2020) to make a law that specifically attacks any group based on race, religion, or creed.

All of the things that I mentioned are racist and also worse than the crime bill and stop and frisk.

The crime bill attacked those who are disproportionately in environments where crime is committed.

Stop and frisk impacted those who cops deemed to be more likely to commit crime.

The pell grant defunding disproportionately impacted individuals who were more likely to lack the funds to enter college.

The ACA change impacted those more likely to be uninsured

DACA impacted individuals more likely to descend from those who emigrated here illegally.

I could go on. That's how laws end up resulting in racist actions. They don't just have "Fuck black people". They end up disproportionately targeting groups of people.

The ACA improved the lives of the uninsured, the vast majority of whom are black and hispanic.

And to make matters worse, Trump has less of a reason to do these things than Bloomberg and Biden did for Stop and Frisk and the Crime Bill respectively.

You can't even remotely justify removing the mandate from the ACA or repealing it without a replacement. Health insurance bankruptcy was the leading cause of bankruptcy when it was implemented. People were dying and losing their savings, primarily black and hispanic people who are often uninsured.

You can't justify DACA being repealed because it was proven to have reduced the number of undocumented immigrant households living in poverty.

The crime bill and stop and frisk failed but they were just poor solutions to mitigating crime that disproportionately impacted a community that disproportionately commits crime due to the social strain of poverty.

tl;dr Trump did half of this s*** just to spite one black person, Obama. Biden and Bloomberg are just white and don't understand that any bill on crime is going to f*** over minorities because cops are racist.

Semantics LMAO

He literally walked it back from initially stating that Biden plainly stated that Obama is one of the few clean black men there are.

im not going off the exact point of op

but looking from afar, America isn't automatically better bc trump is out

your country seems heavily divided

I feel like people don't understand the levels to racism and sexism.

On Sex

Biden patronizes women and treats them like kids by getting way too close on camera. He also tells people to fully investigate any allegations of rape toward him.

Trump commits workplace sexual harassment and his counter argument against sexual assault allegations is "She's too ugly to rape".

Both are sexist, but these are clearly varying degrees of sexism

On Race

Biden says this "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook..." about President Barrack Obama circa 2008

Trump said “He doesn’t have a birth certificate. He may have one, but there is something on that birth certificate—maybe religion, maybe it says he’s a Muslim; I don’t know,” about President Obama from 2008 - 2016.

Only one of these guys is actual friends/acquaintances of former president Barrack Hussein Obama.

Both racist, but not to the same degree obvsly.

Most of what Biden does are called;

Trump however is an actual sexist, racist, and xenophobe to a degree that should actually worry you.

Especially when Trump has no issue courting all the new forms of racists online and passes stuff like this
npr.org/2020/09/22/915843471/trump-expands-ban-on-racial-sensitivity-training-to-federal-contractors

while also campaigning in 2016 on the "War against Christmas" which is just a thinly veiled "Fuck Ramadan, Kwanza, and Hanukah! This is AMERICA, we celebrate Christmas" argument".

tl;dr
You can hate Biden but he's clearly more along the lines of a normal white person trying their best to navigate the world in more progressive times as opposed to Trump who gave a medal to Rush Limbaugh for saying things like "Whites ended slavery, why should we feel guilty about it" among many other racist comments

Nah I hear you bro. And that’s exactly what Biden is, a Wolf in sheep’s clothing. I can understand if niggas is too far behind to see it, but when niggas choose not to see it and then attack you for being right its so ignorant.

We preach black this black that, black excellence, black power yet black people will be the first to tear you down to defend a white man. Smh.

Fam I’m not tryna call you out if I’m wrong but I swear I’ve seen you cap for Biden too?

Who you vote for Op ?

It really isn’t tho. Biden was just on his best behavior to win votes.

I’ve asked it 100 times and no one has yet to give me an answer. Name 1 policy that Trump has had that’s been more detrimental to the black community than Joe Bidens Crime Bill.

We sit here and claim Trumps more racist as if all the niggas wrongfully in prison cus of Biden don’t exist anymore.

It is. Anyone who thought Biden is a automatic better option is foolish. Biden has never did anything good for black people. Not one thing. So to automatically d*** ride him this hard is bizarre to me.

I can understand wanting to switch out Trump but niggas really think s*** sweet now

You’re dumb as s*** I always said I’d never let Biden rest

Bro i already exposed you in ya own thread. Get out. Niggas decided this my s*** now!

THIS MY THREAD NOW LITTLE NIGGA

You gon have to pay me to get cha s*** back