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Ringtone era is nostalgic but it produced very few good albums. And post-08 collapse rap was dire.

What we're seeing now is just an inevitable contraction from rap's peak. It's being redefined, and the new definition is pretty underwhelming if you don't prioritize texture and melody.

I don't follow Opium, but the s*** I've heard just sounds like an extension of the Soundcloud era, which I'm not a fan of either

This thread is genuinely made like 3 times a week

Exact same topic and identical wording every time

we good over here, hiphop is fine

Jack Harlow is unironically better than Eminem

Genuinely should get a 24 hour mute saying s*** like this

This thread topic has been pulverized

Let me see something. Who’s your best rapper?

And pretty sure he’s guilty

These were made by suburban white kids that only listened to 90s rap & Eminem

Drake still around

when u say best wym? My favorite or who I think is the greatest of all time?

It should tell you more about the state of rap rn

2023 been a strong year

Trav, Armand Hammer, and Danny delivered

I'm satisfied

Cool but those niggas are not creating any new waves like what the thread topic is about

They creating good music

Great but my point still stands lol

OP 4 weeks ago: hiphop needs to fall off

OP today: there is nothing that’s showing any progression in mainstream rap

Make up your f***ing mind nigga, otherwise just shut the f*** up with this tired ass conversation topic

Music>Trends

Soundcloud rap showed us all that trends ain't s***. Hip hop is healing rn and rebuilding after being made into a mockery of itself between 2017-2020

2021-2023 we've been seeing a slow rebuild for the genre and 2023 I feel could be the start of something special

2017-2020 were dark f***ing times man

Two things can be true

HipHop can fall off commercially and still be progress musically

The point of the other thread was so that HipHop can weed out the clout chasers and bring actual quality back

Soundcloud era is worse than the ringtone era because everyone knew ringtone rap sucked and some of it was cute in its own way

We were all told to be "open-minded" as neoliberalism consumed the experimental hip hop wave of 2010-2016 and created a bunch of stupid half-assed trap music with buzzy synths and it was called "experimental" or "new gen"

COVID nuked the clout era and the underground push for lyricism, style, and good production has been creeping back since 2021

shoutout Carti, Pop Smoke, and 21 holding it down in 2020 because the rest of the mainstream that year was f***ing fumbling. Uzi was cool too

Whether you liked it or not, SC rap pushed rap forward, rappers started to hop on trap beats more heavily because of SoundCloud rap

It didn't push s*** forward

Soundcloud rap was a retarted version of the s*** Raider Klan, Glory Boyz, ASAP Mob, and Main Attrakionz were doing in the early-to-mid 2010s. It didn't innovate s*** and was a redundant gentrified version of s*** like "Pretty Flacko", "Macaroni Time", "Chuch", etc. Carti, Uzi, and sorta Trippie are the only relevant soundcloud rappers in the game anymore and 2/3 of them got their start in the early-to-mid 2010s. The rest of them either fell off or switched lanes

And rappers "hop on" a lot of watered down, weak ass trap beats to ride streaming trends. All the good trap from that era was either being made by trap artists or coming from the drill scene.

Soundcloud Rap is cool until you grow out of Fortnite and hear this s***