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  • Jan 28, 2021
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    aaaaaaaaaa

    a good example of this is kurt cobain as a guitar player

    would take his solos over 99% of solos by "skilled" guitarists

  • HURRY UP sab 🧔🏻
    Jan 28, 2021
    RoomOnFire

    That’s literally what I said, being enjoyable is subjective

    oh i thought you were saying the opposite lol

    being “better” is also subjective

    sure, you can say someone objectively uses more complex wordplay in their songs or objectively has more focused lyrics, but how heavily you weigh those factors into deciding who’s “better” is completely subjective

  • Jan 28, 2021
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    John Mauve

    would take his solos over 99% of solos by "skilled" guitarists

    bradley walsh

  • Jan 28, 2021
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    KOL Meezy Mestizo

    This is BS to a degree, as you absolutely figure technical proficiency into this. There's no way you can tell me that Emily Montes makes music as good as Kanye West's

    Technical proficiency doesn’t mean someone is better. Just that they are more technically proficient.

  • Jan 28, 2021
    SHAQUILLE

    We gotta stop using that dumb ass term

  • Jan 28, 2021
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    aaaaaaaaaa

    bradley walsh

    what happened to Celeste avi

  • Jan 28, 2021

    that was your best work

  • Jan 28, 2021
    WolfWolfington

    Kanye West objectively makes better music than IceJJFish

    this a classic tho

  • Jan 28, 2021
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    John Mauve

    what happened to Celeste avi

    no more anime avis

  • Jan 28, 2021
    Goo

    It's a mix of objectiveness and subjectiveness lbr

    ☝️this post here right

  • Jan 28, 2021
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    aaaaaaaaaa

    no more anime avis

    I know what you want me to do and no I'm not gonna do it

  • Jan 28, 2021
    John Mauve

    I know what you want me to do and no I'm not gonna do it

  • Jan 28, 2021

    these graphics are crazy

  • Jan 28, 2021
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    KOL Meezy Mestizo

    This is BS to a degree, as you absolutely figure technical proficiency into this. There's no way you can tell me that Emily Montes makes music as good as Kanye West's

    I mean there's just no way to argue it, like everything you list that makes Kanye "objectively better" is just a subjective list of criteria. And a lot of us agree on that criteria but if someone says they don't it's literally impossible to convince them otherwise

  • Jan 28, 2021

    ngl I thought everyone knew this, I only say objective as like an extreme hyperbole

  • Jan 28, 2021
    SHAQUILLE

    Jimi Hendrix disproves this point

    i didnt mean he didnt know how to play he was good, i meant like if someone literally just started and couldnt play anything really

  • Jan 28, 2021
    HURRY UP sab

    was gonna lock this immediately bc i didn’t think there was anyone who still didn’t know the difference between subjectivity & objectivity in 2021, but some of you guys unfortunately proved me wrong

    my thoughts exactly lol

  • Jan 28, 2021
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    Notmyfirst

    I mean there's just no way to argue it, like everything you list that makes Kanye "objectively better" is just a subjective list of criteria. And a lot of us agree on that criteria but if someone says they don't it's literally impossible to convince them otherwise

    Hard disagree. There are absolutely quantifiable criteria you can examine, ie, song structure, recording quality (ie, is it clipping? is it audible? does it have artifacts?), mix quality, (vocal levels vs beat levels) and more. If we examine this criteria, we can certainly say that Kanye West makes objectively better music than Emily Montes

  • Jan 28, 2021
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    KOL Meezy Mestizo

    Hard disagree. There are absolutely quantifiable criteria you can examine, ie, song structure, recording quality (ie, is it clipping? is it audible? does it have artifacts?), mix quality, (vocal levels vs beat levels) and more. If we examine this criteria, we can certainly say that Kanye West makes objectively better music than Emily Montes

    what if someone likes bad audio quality? what if someone likes untraditional song structures? It's seems crazy but this is all subjective, it's just that majority of us agree on the criteria so it seems objective. Like if someone said they legit prefer bad audio quality, you can't out-logic them out of their personal preferences

  • rvi 🐸
    Jan 28, 2021
    KOL Meezy Mestizo

    Hard disagree. There are absolutely quantifiable criteria you can examine, ie, song structure, recording quality (ie, is it clipping? is it audible? does it have artifacts?), mix quality, (vocal levels vs beat levels) and more. If we examine this criteria, we can certainly say that Kanye West makes objectively better music than Emily Montes

    what determines if one song has better structure than another?

  • Hi-C 🦌
    Jan 28, 2021
    Childhood

    ^avis

    Squirrel is fire though. Coolest first generation first evolution starter (Charizard the most badass final evolution though )

  • rvi 🐸
    Jan 28, 2021
    John Mauve

    would take his solos over 99% of solos by "skilled" guitarists

    interesting, his guitar playing never really stood out to me at all

  • Jan 28, 2021
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    People itt confusing consensus with objectivity

  • Jan 28, 2021
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    Stardust

    People itt confusing consensus with objectivity

    No we're not you're bringing in an entirely different word now. As op stated music is subjective abd not objective and that's fact. Consensus is hard to measure because you'd have to ask everyone but there's no place to do that and some people love music and don't ever post about it everywhere

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