a good example of this is kurt cobain as a guitar player
would take his solos over 99% of solos by "skilled" guitarists
That’s literally what I said, being enjoyable is subjective
oh i thought you were saying the opposite lol
being “better” is also subjective
sure, you can say someone objectively uses more complex wordplay in their songs or objectively has more focused lyrics, but how heavily you weigh those factors into deciding who’s “better” is completely subjective
would take his solos over 99% of solos by "skilled" guitarists
bradley walsh
This is BS to a degree, as you absolutely figure technical proficiency into this. There's no way you can tell me that Emily Montes makes music as good as Kanye West's
Technical proficiency doesn’t mean someone is better. Just that they are more technically proficient.
Kanye West objectively makes better music than IceJJFish
this a classic tho
no more anime avis
I know what you want me to do and no I'm not gonna do it
This is BS to a degree, as you absolutely figure technical proficiency into this. There's no way you can tell me that Emily Montes makes music as good as Kanye West's
I mean there's just no way to argue it, like everything you list that makes Kanye "objectively better" is just a subjective list of criteria. And a lot of us agree on that criteria but if someone says they don't it's literally impossible to convince them otherwise
Jimi Hendrix disproves this point
i didnt mean he didnt know how to play he was good, i meant like if someone literally just started and couldnt play anything really
was gonna lock this immediately bc i didn’t think there was anyone who still didn’t know the difference between subjectivity & objectivity in 2021, but some of you guys unfortunately proved me wrong
my thoughts exactly lol
I mean there's just no way to argue it, like everything you list that makes Kanye "objectively better" is just a subjective list of criteria. And a lot of us agree on that criteria but if someone says they don't it's literally impossible to convince them otherwise
Hard disagree. There are absolutely quantifiable criteria you can examine, ie, song structure, recording quality (ie, is it clipping? is it audible? does it have artifacts?), mix quality, (vocal levels vs beat levels) and more. If we examine this criteria, we can certainly say that Kanye West makes objectively better music than Emily Montes
Hard disagree. There are absolutely quantifiable criteria you can examine, ie, song structure, recording quality (ie, is it clipping? is it audible? does it have artifacts?), mix quality, (vocal levels vs beat levels) and more. If we examine this criteria, we can certainly say that Kanye West makes objectively better music than Emily Montes
what if someone likes bad audio quality? what if someone likes untraditional song structures? It's seems crazy but this is all subjective, it's just that majority of us agree on the criteria so it seems objective. Like if someone said they legit prefer bad audio quality, you can't out-logic them out of their personal preferences
Hard disagree. There are absolutely quantifiable criteria you can examine, ie, song structure, recording quality (ie, is it clipping? is it audible? does it have artifacts?), mix quality, (vocal levels vs beat levels) and more. If we examine this criteria, we can certainly say that Kanye West makes objectively better music than Emily Montes
what determines if one song has better structure than another?
^avis
Squirrel is fire though. Coolest first generation first evolution starter (Charizard the most badass final evolution though )
would take his solos over 99% of solos by "skilled" guitarists
interesting, his guitar playing never really stood out to me at all
People itt confusing consensus with objectivity
No we're not you're bringing in an entirely different word now. As op stated music is subjective abd not objective and that's fact. Consensus is hard to measure because you'd have to ask everyone but there's no place to do that and some people love music and don't ever post about it everywhere