Agree on first two points but idk Music had way more staying power than like 99% of rap releases it feels like lol, lot of people love that s***

Without exaggeration 2030 is less than 3 years away and it’s extremely likely two biggest rappers will still be Drake and Kendrick Lamar lol. Would’ve been crazy as a premise if you said this 5 years ago

real original thread

we understood contrast. We was listening to Lil B and Soulja Boy but also Jay Electronica and Lupe Fiasco. we had range. these kids dont

!!!!!

I really cant imagine this hip hop s*** going any further past 2030. UNLESS something/someone comes out and changes the paradigm of hip hop/rap culture. But there will need to be platforms that recognize that and other artist in the ecosystem that can complement that so that it feels like a renewal or renaissance.

i dont know if the gen-z / gen alpha is capable of that tho.

theres a very narcissistic part of me that believes that millennials that are now in their 30’s have to get comfortable with having late music careers lol

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Let’s take it even newer cause this not just no “oooooh Brave you an oldhead” s***, suck my d*** with that respectfully. Go tell one of these current 2020s debuting industry niggas to go make an XO Tour Life, tell one of these Covid debuting niggas to make a Magnolia or even a Stop Breathing. These niggas couldn’t even make a Lucid Dreams or Genie cut it out with the malarkey

that's literally what's been happening lol.

yea I was thinking that when I wrote it.

Im also talking about new rappers debuting. like theres a nigga working at UPS right now in his 30’s that should just go head and drop that album on streaming yfm? I think the millennials are the last generation that can preserve whats left of hip hop

I’m just not understanding why kids don’t care about anyone in their generation rapping

The beef was huge

GNX and The Fall Off did really well

Iceman seems to be doing really well

Why are young audiences not looking at a single kid doing s*** like that?

It all goes back to Lil Jon

Explain further

The genre is f***ing dead. Thankfully I can just listen Drake songs and features for the rest of my life. There are literally hundreds of good songs by/with him. Everything else from 2010 onwards is mid in comparison lmao

its deeper than that
I think literacy and technology accessibility has diluted songwriting and all sorts of other creative processes.
kids aint outside anymore

the art of walking up to a girl and asking for her number. or just being outside (or inside) for long periods of time without pocket computers.

Kendrick, Drake, Tyler, anyone 30+ had the benefit of growing up during those times or in the early transitional period, and you can hear that through the depth of their music.

millennials werent worried about being cringe or performative when they were finding their voices either. those formative years are important. but now since there are so many palettes to emulate and replicate kids can just copy and paste, throw some quality visuals together and go viral. then make millions pretty quickly.
the feedback loop is distorted. the consumers attention span is stunted.
cities are gentrified and too expensive for youth culture to really thrive.

s***s over lowkey or we due for a reset

That yung angel post is bait

i listened to lucki for the first time and that soundcloud undergroud lazy s*** sucks thats why its dead

rappers cant dress still wearing skinniez and cant perform!

yea that s*** aint going anywhere.
there a was a glimpse of light during covid when MIKE dropped Numbered Dayz and for like a year i thought that whole subculture was gonna be the wave but its too lazy. I f*** with the music personally but it lacks something

I think JPEG is on to something with “experimental rap” but he made it so corny that it prolly wont catch on, atleast not through him.

but hip hop needs a truly experimental phase, like fully industrial rap. It has to be done genuinely though. maybe we already had it in the early 2010’s with Shabazz Palaces and Death Grips.

I just feel like hip hop needs to expand if it wants to continue existing

Yeah they're illiterate lol of course they can't rap

Scales tipped starting the decline when listeners valued the club/radio/vibey hits over more substance heavy songs

Throw in Wayne over arching influence on not writing and damn near every modern day rapper doesn't write because of him

Add in internet accessibility and punching in, it creates what we have at present. Wouldn't even blame the younger gen, the issues started with those that came before them and never was able to shift its trajectory

Fact that music at one point was something you probably had to be passionate about, where now its no different than someone trying to force becoming a youtuber or streamer or instagram clout demon.

we could write a whole book on the decline of music (hip hop specifically) and theres a whole web of things that played a part.
some of them unrelated to music itself

This a good song

There isn't even a Soulja Boy or a Lil B in this generation

You breakin the bed springs

The kids can't read

yuno miles

Not even close to the same thing