2slimey and Jim Legxacy have great songs

Is supposed to b nino paid

Why is the barometer for making good music being as good or as big as Kendrick and Drake?

2slimey??? Hell nah. He does not have enough range or x factor to do anything close to Carti, X, or Juice

KENNY MASON OUT NOW

Sad!

You gotta link a song man

I don't think it's that these new rappers suck, I think that the landscape has just changed. Also you've got to wonder, who's gonna be the next big "star"? Besides the big 3 the challenge has been open for a while now and nobody's capitalized.

For example, whatever your thoughts on Drake, the whole 3 album drop is a moment. With even causals talking or being excited about it. Who of this next gen could even be close to that kind of hype?

Not just Kendrick and Drake but Kendrick Drake Em Kanye Jay Wayne TI 50 X etc lol

Why would it not be? Artists can make whatever they want and it's not necessarily about striving to be Drake or Kendrick

but when people have this Convo that's what they're kind of really asking: why are their no new versatile hit making stars that can make classic albums/bodies of work

For some reason I can't put this all in one post and press "post" here is rest of my response lol

It's simply the difference between a Veeze Carti LUCKI Earl etc or whoever is "good" from this era vs the people who carried the genre before. Mfs just are satisfied with dominating their niche

But some of that was labels telling niggas what to do

It doesnt make sense especially considering they didnt have the same "obstacles" that the new kids got.

been saying it for years: some of the hits we know and cherish today that blew up between the 90s and 2012 would NOT have been hits today

F***ing Swimming Pools or Marvin's Room would not have been a crazy hit if that song dropped today, that content just would get tore apart or the sound would make them fall into their own respective "niches" because today's audience's attention span is so scattered.

Because the audience no longer calls for it, the same reason aint no more rap superstars, there's no need or want for them when you can just latch on to a niche and be good.

When you try to stretch yourself out too thin, you please nobody

it’s crazy cause a few years ago on ktt this opinion would’ve got you called an unc and now it’s common af

people were so afraid of looking out of touch they hyped any flash in the pan BS and that’s why we are where we are

And also the lack of versatility goes back to simply "what music did these niggas grow up on?"

Niggas was more versatile back then because they grew up on more than just one blank slate.

Edit: I edited his SoundCloud link out just in case he lurks this forum and thinks Im being an a******.

I agree that many of the hits we grew up on wouldn’t be hits today because it’s a completely different climate. Also agree with the attention span being at an all time low.

Instead of the fully fleshed 3:30 - 4:30 minute songs and 12-15 track albums we grew up up on, artists are incentivized to make these super short/under 2:30 songs and bloat their albums with 20+ songs for business reasons. That alone is affecting the quality of what’s coming out. Along with many of these acts not being musically trained and developed the way acts signed to labels used to be.

Also believe that we are so far out from the type of monoculture that existed in the past, that even actual talented acts are having and are going to continue to have a hard time cutting through. Music discovery isn’t as centralized as before. There’s so much music coming out that it’s difficult to keep up with besides most of what you’re already familiar with.

Think the reason why all the biggest artists are primarily pre-streaming artists is because that period had conditions that could more easily create stars. And there were more heads involved with the development of older artists’ careers and albums.

this is the problem for me. theres plenty of great rap being made by dope new/ semi new artist but the outlets are so fractured for them to blow up they end up just having niche fanbases.

Streaming and tbh social media has just splintered s*** so bad.

I don’t disagree that a lot of the new rappers are just kinda half trying and let a lot of their image do the work. My real point was that just saying all the new rappers suck as a blanket statement is just some old head s***.

My uncle who grew up on 80s/90s rap used to same the same thing about the era we were growing through. And those that grew up pre-HipHop did the same thing.

There are good rappers who just aren’t cutting through this music climate and more of the less talented acts are receiving more attention.

I do believe that there is more bad music because people can just upload whatever and it go viral whether it’s good or not.

There are so many pieces that need to align for any kind of big 3 to emerge again.

Artists have to be willing to submit to the will of a label at some point.

Also need big producers that people are eager to hear from just like their favorite rappers

Rappers need real day one teams that they don’t abandon or that don’t abandon them.

The rappers also have to be part of a larger movement or “era”

Those rappers also need to tour smaller markets and venues to build a REAL fanbase.

Put all that together and we might be talking

Yes they would be hits cause the compositions are strong, it’s not about content

S*** I ain't even see lol

The last time we had compositions as strong as Marvin’s Room and Swimming Pools was from some of the pop hits in 2024. A new rapper is 10000% blowing up in this era with a composition as strong as one of those

If anything it was harder then cause we were getting way stronger compositions like clockwork - today those would be by far the strongest compositions out