Oct 13, 2022·1 reply
ragedsycokillerI mean isn't that obvious? Who is saying that he was calling violence to jews? Give me some direct quotes? Cuz all I saw was people being rightfully mad about the comments he was making
There are people on here and on Twitter that the tweet was genuinely advocating for violence against the Jews to be had
WINTER 🌨️Oct 13, 2022
pouringoverR y’all senile
watch your mouth
- Oct 13, 2022
MiniVani just dont think you follow that up with a but no matter what youre about to say
You’re right, I agree with that.
But that “but” still doesn’t justify violence in any scenario against anyone. That’s the point we’re trying to make
- Oct 13, 2022·2 repliesshaleirose
There are people on here and on Twitter that the tweet was genuinely advocating for violence against the Jews to be had
I took it as "I'm about to get racist as s*** about Jews"
I didn't think he was going to try to rally a mob lol
- Oct 13, 2022ragedsycokiller
I took it as "I'm about to get racist as s*** about Jews"
I didn't think he was going to try to rally a mob lol
Then you actually have some common sense, unlike the people who thought he was wishing actual harm against an entire race of people.
Still wrong either way though
e t 👽Oct 13, 2022ragedsycokillerI mean isn't that obvious? Who is saying that he was calling violence to jews? Give me some direct quotes? Cuz all I saw was people being rightfully mad about the comments he was making
I already put some screencaps a few pages ago but if you read through the other threads it’s not hard to find either.
- e t 👽Oct 13, 2022·1 replyragedsycokiller
I took it as "I'm about to get racist as s*** about Jews"
I didn't think he was going to try to rally a mob lol
That’s how most of us took it but KTT’s twitter crew had to take it to the next level as always
Oct 13, 2022·1 replye tLet me lay it out for you one final time in simpler terms since you seem overwhelmed with blind rage against the imagined monolith of “Ye victimhood supporters”
Ye said really f***ed up s*** over the last week, including alt-right and anti-Semitic ideas.
Ye didn’t call for violence or death to Jewish people but some people felt that was his intention with the death con tweet. When asked to clarify if he wished harm on Jewish people, he said “no, no way.”
Do you see how all of those things can be true at the same time?
Before he clarified he doesn't want Jews dead and reiterated anti-semitic rethoric ( again completely disregarding how hate speech works but whatever right lol)
Y'all were doing backflips to defend him
Going as far to twist freedom of speech, hate speech, etc to absolve ye of the alleged consequences of his own words
U specifically acted like he was being denied some fundamental right by getting dropped by 1 bank
Let's not be dishonest about where we stand
I know dishonesty is most important to confuse people and get them to adhere to the bs ye is spouting but we don't have to do that here, on a forum where we can easily pull up threads and posts
Oct 13, 2022·2 repliesIsrael is a terrorist state
- Oct 13, 2022·3 repliese t
That’s how most of us took it but KTT’s twitter crew had to take it to the next level as always
What are you trying to say? What Ye said wasn't that bad, you give him a pass? 🤨🤨🤨
- Oct 13, 2022Toxicity
What are you trying to say? What Ye said wasn't that bad, you give him a pass? 🤨🤨🤨
No, just that he wasn’t trying to incite violence
That’s literally all we’re saying and y’all are spinning it in every which direction
- e t 👽Oct 13, 2022·2 repliesDonutHole
Before he clarified he doesn't want Jews dead and reiterated anti-semitic rethoric ( again completely disregarding how hate speech works but whatever right lol)
Y'all were doing backflips to defend him
Going as far to twist freedom of speech, hate speech, etc to absolve ye of the alleged consequences of his own words
U specifically acted like he was being denied some fundamental right by getting dropped by 1 bank
Let's not be dishonest about where we stand
I know dishonesty is most important to confuse people and get them to adhere to the bs ye is spouting but we don't have to do that here, on a forum where we can easily pull up threads and posts
I didn’t need his clarification to understand that he wasn’t literally calling for the death of Jewish people with that tweet. Critical thinking was sufficient enough for me.
And yes, I still agree that being deplatformed from banks is not an appropriate response to speech or ideology of any kind. That’s where I stand.
- Oct 13, 2022·2 repliese t
I didn’t need his clarification to understand that he wasn’t literally calling for the death of Jewish people with that tweet. Critical thinking was sufficient enough for me.
And yes, I still agree that being deplatformed from banks is not an appropriate response to speech or ideology of any kind. That’s where I stand.
Regarding the bank thing, I don’t think that was a result of all of this.
Back in September he said publicly that he was trying to withdraw from JP Morgan
- e t 👽Oct 13, 2022Toxicity
What are you trying to say? What Ye said wasn't that bad, you give him a pass? 🤨🤨🤨
No it was bad enough on its own that it didn’t need a “Ye is a Nazi calling for the death of Jews” narrative added to it. And yes obviously that’s much worse but the lack of it far from gives him a pass about anything he’s said.
Oct 13, 2022ToxicityWhat are you trying to say? What Ye said wasn't that bad, you give him a pass? 🤨🤨🤨
why do y'all argue like this lmao
Oct 13, 2022
orangetcovid:Antisemitism is really one of the dumbest s*** in recent years to hold major status. Like niggas out perpetuate the notion that all Jews are rich, powerful and evil. Like its so stupid to group all jews in one class and be so convinced about it like most of hiphop and the general culture is.
This is Kareem Abdul Jabbar's blog talking bout it
I abhor all forms of discrimination, but I find antisemitism particularly heinous because it requires a particularly unimaginative and illogical mind to embrace. First, antiSemites target a group because they have been historically targeted. That’s so lazy. Why not go after bodybuilders (what are they secretly planning to do with all those muscles)?
Second, antiSemitism usually requires an elaborate conspiracy system that doesn’t hold up under any intelligent scrutiny. But it does provide a comforting fantasy labyrinth to blame a villain for all problems. Understanding the complexities of the world and the many villains—including themselves for promoting hate—is beyond their comprehension and control. So much easier to just hate Jews.
yeah obviously racism is dumb asf
- Oct 13, 2022
toxicity username to post ratio
- Oct 13, 2022·edited·2 repliesshaleirose
No, I’m going off of what YOU said.
The “bad business” Ye is referring to are the anti-Semitic financial stereotypes that are wrong and shouldn’t be believed by anyone.
YOU said that he’s said WAY MORE about Jewish people that goes beyond bad business (in other words, the financial stereotypes).
So again I ask, what has he said about Jewish people that’s anti-Semitic that has nothing to do with the financial stereotypes we’ve already established are wrong?
The comment about Jews dancing
Diddy beIng send by Jews
The vice article reported that ye believes Jews are turning men less masculine
going death con ON JEWISH PEOPLE
Even the Hollywood comment in the tmz clip this thread is about isn't about Finances or bad business
PS: Ngl, I haven't seen u attempt to denounce anti-semitism until just now
Oct 13, 2022·1 replyWho Kanye is really mad at are owners and managers who have leverage over artists because of their control of capital, and oftentimes abuse that relationship in the pursuit of the biggest profits possible.
The problem is he had extreme success as an artist so he now finds himself in a similar position to money/artists/employees so he can't criticize the oppressive nature of that relationship. He instead has to find another scapegoat in his head and settled on blaming the race of those people, as if somehow Jewish owners are inherently more exploitative than other races.
Oct 13, 2022shaleiroseRegarding the bank thing, I don’t think that was a result of all of this.
Back in September he said publicly that he was trying to withdraw from JP Morgan
Apparently they were reached out to for comment and declined.
Not taking anything concrete away from that but ostensibly they could have just come right out and said it was a mutual withdrawal or this move was initiated by Ye if that was the case.
- Oct 13, 2022·1 reply
they locked donda 2 thread all dis drama lol
- garetare ✅Oct 13, 2022·1 replyfrenchpress
they locked donda 2 thread all dis drama lol
donda 2 is finished anyways. we on donda 3 now
- Oct 13, 2022
that thread was dusty af anyway but i just find it funny. it's not that deep
- Oct 13, 2022e t
I didn’t need his clarification to understand that he wasn’t literally calling for the death of Jewish people with that tweet. Critical thinking was sufficient enough for me.
And yes, I still agree that being deplatformed from banks is not an appropriate response to speech or ideology of any kind. That’s where I stand.
"Bla bla bla ye is the victim stop treating his nutty ass unfairly blablabla"
That's where you stand all up and down this thread and the other ones
- Oct 13, 2022garetare
donda 2 is finished anyways. we on donda 3 now
alwayyyzz