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  • Aug 9, 2021
    DonutHole

    Dj khaled is entrenched in what I'd call "the urban community"

    There's overlap between black people and urban community ofc however In some places in the west the urban is majority non-black but some of them still behave the same way (streetwear fashion,have their own slang, embrace hip hop elements/culture)

    This whole argument you have only works if I'd confuse black culture with urban culture (I can understand that since famous black people set the trends for this and it took off somewhere around the 80s)

    mainstream black culture at the moment mostly urban it seems (from the urban areas, where mostly the working class lives in hoods or ghettos )

    If dj khaled is from NYC it's hard for me to concede to your point he was being racist because NYC is the most culturally diverse city in the world

    Some new Yorkers identify to their urban community as much as their racial identity as most people from such cities do (London, Paris, Brussels which is the second best most culturally diverse city, Toronto, etc)

    I mention purposefully mention Toronto above because drake fits into urban culture more than Tyler despite Tyler being fully black as opposed to drake....

    being a "hood nigga" isn't (or imo shouldn't be) a black thing exclusively

    Unfortunately systematic racism puts black people routinely at the bottom therefore we're sometimes over represented in urban areas but middle easterns, South americans, eastern Europeans etc live there too and suffer from the same material conditions that created movements such as hip hop

    We should acknowledge a system that routinely puts black people in that position but culturally it isn't only black thing

    I don't agree with dj khaled saying the n-word at all but let Remy ma tell it - they don't care since they grew up together

    Black music can be from the hood or not,

    Beyonce, whitney houston, Toni braxton, r Kelly (I'd bet a whole lotta rnb singers) weren't from the hood but still make black music

    Michael Jackson and prince weren't from or didn't act like they were from the hood but still made black music

    Hell we can even talk about how the same city khaled is supposedly from, NYC, has a ballroom culture from inner-city black and brown lgbt youth but they're not considered "hood niggas" but are considered eccentric, creative, maybe even "mysterious" but still apart of black lgbt culture, no one questions their blackness when they're voguing to Diana Ross or house music

    Tyler can be weird, from the hills, and make music that gets played at functions (regardless of race)

    I'm just gonna say it but I don't see the racism in what khaled said - classism sure but even that isn't a big deal to me because urban culture or hood s*** is usually considered less than - Tyler knows this and played of it in the beginning of his career acting like he's above it all and "hood niggas" were remedial

    I want to repeat that I don't like that dj khaled and other NYC cats (non-black cats) get a pass by their peers to use the n-word

  • Aug 9, 2021

    imagine cucking jfk

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