UncMC 🏰Jan 26But nah is it white acceptance or gentrification tho
Jan 26·4 replies
Bobby_96I still think this is too ambiguous of a claim though.
Kanye worked with Chief Keef on GOOD's version of Don't Like and shouted out the Southside of Chicago on "All Day."
Can't Tell Me Nothin was meant to be a Jeezy song before Ye flipped it and kept it sounding hard.
In fact, Ye always had zero issues working with "street" rappers. He was never on that "I'm too good for these niggas" schtick like Tyler used to be on pre-Flower Boy.
Like I get the argument about MBDTF and Yeezus drawing in hipsters. KSG to a lesser extent too.
But I just don't see Ye actively s***ting on gangster rap or old school rap at all. He has called Jay or Nas his GOATs for the longest time just like other rappers. And he's a fan of 50 Cent too and flipped the "Banks told me go head and switch your style up" line off of In Da Club on Good Life.
Like I feel a lot of your argument is projection and not actually based on what Kanye has said or expressed.
Even Yeezus had conscious messages on New Slaves and Blood On The Leaves and that's supposed to be Ye's "whitest" album.
I dunno....I think you're going somewhere with this but it's just not a consistent argument at all. Even Fantano didn't f*** with Ye like that early on despite being a (former) mild fan.
ngl these examples you’ve provided are Kanye taking “street” songs and making them digestible for suburban people
it’s so ironic you used Don’t Like as an example, because that was literally Kanye watering down a perfectly good street anthem to re-present it to white people
- Jan 26·1 replyNothingIs
“Death Grips” mention in 2026 lol
at least get your reddit stereotypes up to date
they love Destroy Lonely & s*** now
Nah. They still love the s*** out of Death Grips.
And DG always gets brought up when rap haters ask about "good hip hop" on there.
Jan 26·1 reply
Valentinethat should be the natural answer when it comes to hurting other humans, reasoning on a line about hurting someone is insanity. you got it
Sir it’s a neutral question
Jan 26·1 replyNothingIsngl these examples you’ve provided are Kanye taking “street” songs and making them digestible for suburban people
it’s so ironic you used Don’t Like as an example, because that was literally Kanye watering down a perfectly good street anthem to re-present it to white people
People from the hood loved can’t tell me nothing
- Jan 26Bobby_96
Nah. They still love the s*** out of Death Grips.
And DG always gets brought up when rap haters ask about "good hip hop" on there.
you must be paying attention to the same 4 users then or searching for DG mentions still, nobody really brings up DG anymore even on reddit
- Jan 26babylon sherm
Sir it’s a neutral question
you sat down and contemplated hurting people
that’s weird in every reality/context dude
- Jan 26Yayo
People from the hood loved can’t tell me nothing
never said otherwise
Jan 26I hate these revisionist history bullshit type threads
- UncMC 🏰Jan 26·1 reply
Curtis on streaming now
Jan 26
JRCan't agree with Clipse but everyone else is a culprit.
I never forgot that KTT1 was full of those kinds of kids either.
i read this book recently and it delves into kanye/clipse very well regarding this topic oceanofpdf.com/authors/chris-deville/pdf-epub-such-great-heights-the-complete-cultural-history-of-the-indie-rock-explosion-download
- Jan 26
Ulyanov_Weird music doesn't mean gentrification man
Hip hop's always had a weird side.
i’m talking about the mainstream. mainstream rap generally isn’t weird. it follows trends like any other genre.
- Jan 26
CGI Doglowkenuinely this is awesome
thought this said lowkirkenuinely…
Jan 26·edited·1 replywhen a genre enters the most popular point of its lifespan, there will always be a group of fans that show up listening to s*** in spite of the roots of that genre. and yes, these people will inevitably be fans of the most popular figures in that genre. It happened with rock. think about how many people love the beatles but never listen to little richard or ike turner. It’s just what happens when you hit peak mainstream
it’s part of the natural cycle of things and to blame whoever happened to be most popular in the genre when it reached its peak is weird. It wasn’t the Beatles intentions to ravage rock and roll and spawn an army of white “rock and roll” fans with no knowledge of the roots. I mean they loved little richard and ike turner and tried their best to put their fans on to all the legends of the genre. I think the same about Kanye. he didn’t mean to bring ruin to hip hop. it’s not really his fault that his career coincided with the peak and subsequent fall of rap’s popularity.
It is still true tho that a lot of the “fake fans” that came to hiphop during its peak with no regard for the genre’s history are also Kanye fans. I just don’t think that’s really his fault.
- Jan 26·3 repliesNothingIs
ngl these examples you’ve provided are Kanye taking “street” songs and making them digestible for suburban people
it’s so ironic you used Don’t Like as an example, because that was literally Kanye watering down a perfectly good street anthem to re-present it to white people
how is Kanye doing a hometown remix of an upcoming street rappers song, gentrification???
Jan 26UncMCCurtis on streaming now
!https://youtu.be/6SPTuPcdSboF*** streaming.
Jan 26
Benny Boy50 had a rugged image and was roided up but he sang all of his hooks and his peers clowned him for it. That was the avatar of street music at that time. When Jadakiss makes fun of him for signing he's basically calling him gay. People called Kanye soft and gay especially during the Heartless run. Poptimism was as much about the crisis of masculinity as it was about the music. And the genre got less reactionary when the money went the other way. How it can be gentrified when Beastie Boys and Vanilla Ice existed idk
50 clowned Ja Rule for singing hooks then started doing it himself
Jan 26NothingIsngl these examples you’ve provided are Kanye taking “street” songs and making them digestible for suburban people
it’s so ironic you used Don’t Like as an example, because that was literally Kanye watering down a perfectly good street anthem to re-present it to white people
We had already digested Wu Tang man Kanye was light work
Jan 26Valentinehow is Kanye doing a hometown remix of an upcoming street rappers song, gentrification???
What even is going on in this thread man lmaoo
- Jan 26
I never want to discourage what I presume to be earnest discussion especially on here but jeez some of yall are just impossible to please lol
- Jan 26·1 replyValentine
how is Kanye doing a hometown remix of an upcoming street rappers song, gentrification???
the s*** we gotta acknowledge is that kanye doing the keef remix was just kanye doing a keef remix it’s not that deep for him. it’s just that because he’s kanye and is mainstream asl, him doing that will expose a lot of mainstream fans to chief keef, and in effect, gentrify him.
I think it’s good to acknowledge shifts in the culture and observe this s***, but we have to allow ourselves to say “hey, this thing kanye did led to some gentrification of the genre” without also ascribing intention to it. Like u right it sounds dumb asl to say Kanye was gentrifying s*** when he thought abt doing a remix w chief keef. s*** is stupid. but at the same time, it is true that the kanye remix probably brought a lot more casual fans into the chief keef fandom.
Jan 26Very much so
- Jan 26Ulyanov_
Kanye gentrified hip hop in the same way Democrats pushed the United States further right, if that makes sense. More subtle and obscure but arguably no less harmful. Serially invalidating the grassroots tenets of hip hop is the other side of the coin of limiting the perception of hip hop to caricatured gangster images and debauchery.
bro.. how u type this w a straight face
- Jan 26·3 replies
Dont Like remix is a crime against humanity
F***ing atrocious, zapping out all the energy - Jan 26·1 replycarlos slim
the s*** we gotta acknowledge is that kanye doing the keef remix was just kanye doing a keef remix it’s not that deep for him. it’s just that because he’s kanye and is mainstream asl, him doing that will expose a lot of mainstream fans to chief keef, and in effect, gentrify him.
I think it’s good to acknowledge shifts in the culture and observe this s***, but we have to allow ourselves to say “hey, this thing kanye did led to some gentrification of the genre” without also ascribing intention to it. Like u right it sounds dumb asl to say Kanye was gentrifying s*** when he thought abt doing a remix w chief keef. s*** is stupid. but at the same time, it is true that the kanye remix probably brought a lot more casual fans into the chief keef fandom.
Chief Keef did Finally Rich, Back From the Dead 2, Bang 2 and Almighty So after the remix and was banned from Chicago
he in fact, did not gentrify him lol, he perpetuated the new aspect of hiphop that was rising with black kids in his city
