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  • Mar 16, 2024
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    Jalen Brunson Fan

    Did you stop defending him?

    I did admit that I used to be a blind Kanye fan as a teenager, defend and deflect, Taylor is wrong, he's misguided, misspoke, has yes men in his ear, villainized, etc. I just think at some point you gotta self-reflect and be like this dude is crazy and is not someone you want to associate yourself with, even now I'm wasting my time arguing about him once again

    Enjoy his music all you want, I support separating art from artist, but imo he became a lot worse after TLOP, and while Donda was a cool moment, he regressed into the being we see today and the people he influences to this day

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    There nothing about Ye to defend itt because this incident wasn't caused by Ye so everything being discussed at the moment is irrelevant to the thread

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    Q3D

    I'm just gonna say something rq, if she wasn't trans no one would be doubting her and you'd all be like "don't hit women"

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    niggas top artist is all old white rock artist (and lil peep) and he itt capping about being black and the type of toxic fanbase Kanye has

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    I might have to turn off my top spotify listeners because I'm not about to explain this every time. But to be brief, I don't listen to solo Moz but yes I recognize after he disbanded, he became a scornful white racist.

    Nigga he wrote the songs and he’s always held those beliefs.

    Fwiw I like the smiths too but there’s really no defending it you’re just a hypocrite

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    I did admit that I used to be a blind Kanye fan as a teenager, defend and deflect, Taylor is wrong, he's misguided, misspoke, has yes men in his ear, villainized, etc. I just think at some point you gotta self-reflect and be like this dude is crazy and is not someone you want to associate yourself with, even now I'm wasting my time arguing about him once again

    Enjoy his music all you want, I support separating art from artist, but imo he became a lot worse after TLOP, and while Donda was a cool moment, he regressed into the being we see today and the people he influences to this day

    It’s a yes or no question lol

    If you personally stopped defending Kanye because of your beliefs, great. That’s about all you can do. Screaming into a Kanye echo chamber about how people should stop listening to Kanye isn’t going to change anyone’s mind.

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    Jalen Brunson Fan

    It’s a yes or no question lol

    If you personally stopped defending Kanye because of your beliefs, great. That’s about all you can do. Screaming into a Kanye echo chamber about how people should stop listening to Kanye isn’t going to change anyone’s mind.

    I was told music sxn isn't an echo chamber. Also I'm not telling people to stop listening to him, he made great music as late of 2021, but there's no point of defending the person and looking away at the trend and what his fanbase looks like nowadays

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    I was told music sxn isn't an echo chamber. Also I'm not telling people to stop listening to him, he made great music as late of 2021, but there's no point of defending the person and looking away at the trend and what his fanbase looks like nowadays

    No you are just hating wtf

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    Free YoungBoy

    Nigga he wrote the songs and he’s always held those beliefs.

    Fwiw I like the smiths too but there’s really no defending it you’re just a hypocrite

    Share me one racist Smiths lyric my guy

    Also how am I being a hypocrite if I literally said you can separate the art from the artist

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    pussy bacon

    Top Artists
    LAST 2 WEEKS
    The Smiths

    the virtue signaling really knows zero bounds it’s insane

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    Q3D

    I'm just gonna say something rq, if she wasn't trans no one would be doubting her and you'd all be like "don't hit women"

    Tbh I doubt you'd be defending them if they weren't trans.

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    HeelKylo

    niggas top artist is all old white rock artist (and lil peep) and he itt capping about being black and the type of toxic fanbase Kanye has

    I'd post a handcheck but I'm not tryna get any more memed than I am now 😔 but I've been to the motherland and I'm a proud Eritrean 😁

  • Mar 16, 2024

    I'll admit this current top artist list is a set up

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    Not Like Josuke

    Tbh I doubt you'd be defending them if they weren't trans.

    Don’t fall for it bro

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    I'm ngl, I did enjoy Kanye, but one thing that has always irritated me since ktt1 is that it was the best hip hop forum but suffered from being a Kanye topic forum. Now that he's unsalvageable and irredeemable, we should just move on as a collective, and if you want to discuss his music, go ahead, but please stop creating false narratives about how Kanye is a martyr and that he's a genius, he's an egotistical, dangerous fool beyond contempt.

    Yes, this is the music sxn, but as a regular, you should be aware that Kanye's bias is felt even here. Of course, this is an isolated incident, but as I previously stated, if every fan interaction on the internet is regularly posted or notable (in other words, if it smells like s*** everywhere you go, you're the s***ty one). As I previously stated, you reap what you sow, and in this case, Kanye has amassed a far more toxic fanbase in recent years than he did from CD to TLOP.

    Realize this. Every Kanye fan I met online and irl have became quiet since 2022, some of were vocal in 2018, but if you are still defending his honour to this day, you're clearly on the wrong side of history. One day you'll realise it because I believe you are more sensible than some folks here.

    I'm tapping out, peace

    @Q3D You should as well, no point of stressing your mental for Kanye fans imho

    This place is toast if it drops the KTT branding completely.

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    deleteduser579

    the virtue signaling really knows zero bounds it’s insane

    If somehow Moz became #1 artist and had rabid fans all around the world I'd be s***ting on him too. Too bad he's irrelevant.

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    Not Like Josuke

    Tbh I doubt you'd be defending them if they weren't trans.

    And what makes you say that lol

  • Mar 16, 2024
    BLACKSTAR BULLY

    Don’t fall for it bro

    Hop off it

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    I'd post a handcheck but I'm not tryna get any more memed than I am now 😔 but I've been to the motherland and I'm a proud Eritrean 😁

    either way man crawl back into your hole

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    Not Like Josuke

    Tbh I doubt you'd be defending them if they weren't trans.

    i mean if it were two cis men it'd be a fair fight

    if it were a trans or cis women that's clearly f***ed cmon man

  • Mar 16, 2024
    SpiderMan

    This place is toast if it drops the KTT branding completely.

    alright kanyewest

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    Share me one racist Smiths lyric my guy

    Also how am I being a hypocrite if I literally said you can separate the art from the artist

    Dude he was talking about how much he hated Pakistanis when the band was active, always advocated against immigration and is a white nationalist.

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    If somehow Moz became #1 artist and had rabid fans all around the world I'd be s***ting on him too. Too bad he's irrelevant.

    you’re furthering my point it’s virtue signaling

    if you actually cared about this pearl clutching you’re doing, the amount of popularity would have no bearing on whether or not you support a problematic artist

    you liberals are all the same srs

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    i mean if it were two cis men it'd be a fair fight

    if it were a trans or cis women that's clearly f***ed cmon man

    What if it was trans vs cis woman

  • Mar 16, 2024
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    EquivalentWhole

    What if it was trans vs cis woman

    Too bad it wasn't

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