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"The left has warped, distorted and defiled the American story with deceptions, falsehoods, and lies. There is no better example than the New York Times' totally discredited 1619 Project,"

I mean.. American education is already "patriotic?"
Genocide denial & Pro-capitalist rhetoric is something that already exists. Critical race theory already doesn't exist in lower education. Americans are already the most brain-washed citizens on Earth.

"Our youth will be taught to love North Korea with all of their heart and all of their souls," Kim said

Wait...

like we dont have mandatory pledge of allegiance in schools and damn near compulsory anthems at f***ing ball games lest you want to be harassed like wtf

"the left is trying to erase history by taking down confederate statues!!!"

"teaching slavery and the concept of systematic racism in the US is un-american and will never be taught again."

Contradictions are key to Liberalism

idk where tf you people heard about american education or went to school but when i was in school a long time ago we were repeatedly told about how terrible slavery was, the native american genocide, etc. and how terrible colonialism was, and how unmitigated capitalism was a scourge in the early 1900s which resulted in class warfare and horrible working conditions. literally the only "patriotic" s*** i ever encountered in american education was the concept that despite the US's history, there was hope to be had in things getting better and identity that transcended cultural lines. Literally half of my education back in the day was being told things like immigration is good and immigrants built this nation, the US has a bloody and questionable history, and the government is often corrupt. And this was A LONG time ago. schooling has only gotten more liberal in the majority of the country based off of what i've heard from people i know and friend's kids; not that this doesnt carry its own problems, but it sure as f*** is not denying genocide or oppression.
The s*** you hear about in the south or midwest about biased education has nothing to do with US educational policy or curriculum; it has to do with locally biased teachers and often from lack of funding or educational resources. Remember, education has different levels state & federal. It's not the federal government telling people in small rural towns in the south to teach revisionism of the civil war.
the american education system is ridiculously flawed on a ton of levels but acting like it's systematically some far right brain washing is literally a boogeyman

right

this is a lose-lose situation because you either have to defend the warped neocon idea of faux-nationalism or you need to defend market-driven private companies engineering neoliberal writing into public schooling

Agreed; perhaps I shouldn't have said "genocide denier" but instead rather "downplaying genocide." I went to high school in Seattle and there's a constant rhetoric of Slavery or Manifest Destiny being a "necessary evil" or some other bullshit like that.

They would teach us about some bad things like "My Lai" during the Vietnam war as if that was the only atrocity that occurred during the entire Vietnam War. Same with "Trail of Tears" or the bombing of Japan during WW2, or the entire War on Terror. "Necessary Evil," they say. Focus on specific events and say how those events were bad instead of the entire notion of invading someones land.

It fails to connect these events to real, material history. How has slavery impacted African Americans today? How has US colonialism and Imperialism effected the global south today?

It creates a dangerous rhetoric; it further allows for imperialism and the over-exploitation of the global south. It further allows for Americans wanting to interfere with other nations, allowing the US to keep its spot as the global hegemony; at the cost of the mass killing of others abroad. It further allows for White Americans to keep their spot in the social hierarchy; at the cost of the keeping African Americans down by preaching "individualism" and not teaching critical race theory.

There's a lot of connection to the status quo; it's not necessarily some far-right brain washing, but the US Education System is definitely created to keep those with power in power.

We are already dumb as s*** as a country and this bozo is trying to enshrine his (and im assuming the other f***ers in his admin) f***ed viewpoint of history and the world in our youth.

Okay, I agree with you to an extent. I do think some things are taught worse than others in a wider context.
I definitely think a large part of it just has to do with the scope and depth of teaching history in a centralized manner. It's very hard to teach hundreds of years of successive history and how that relates to socio-economic systems. It gets more complicated when you bring in things like race, class, gender, etc. The sheer size and variety within the country just ensures you are never going to have a fully stable and homogenous curriculum, especially given differences in class size, school budget, and background/biases of people teaching. I agree with you to the extent that certain things are downplayed in teaching US history, but I'm not really sure if this is because of nationalism as much it is ease of teaching especially to younger kids; you have a large curriculum to go over and staying on things for which it could take years upon years to read and correctly understand only makes things more confusing and often disconnected.
Certain rhetoric about things like the japan bombing in WW2 is harder than discussing things like slavery but there's far more debate contextually over it. This is ultimately the issue - as a tangent - with highly interwoven educational curriculum. Like what should schools be teaching to begin with? Just functional skills? Just history without bias? Because history without bias doesn't necessarily include connections to material history, that's a specific type of framing, regardless of my personal opinion on it.
American education is of course tied to the status quo...that's kind of the point. If you have a semi-centralized education system, how can it NOT be the status quo? How can something literally funded and arranged by the status quo teach things that do not represent the status quo? Taxes aren't going to fund an entity which raises questions about the validity of the entity which collects those taxes. This isn't just in the US; this is virtually everywhere. There's no country where education isn't going to reflect the status quo that perpetuates the existence of its hierarchical entities. Even private education does this because in modern society, that is literally one point of education; hell, when i was in high school, this was literally something we were outright told, about the "social function" of modern schooling. I talked issues with this briefly in a different thread awhile ago where i cited some stuff Gaddafi wrote on education, i can dig that up if you want since it's on this topic

Mandatory Karl Marx? If not...out.

You know how many complaints a school would get

lol..oh I know.

Virtually every college which has literature or philosophy courses includes reading at least one thing from Marx

As a History teacher, I am appalled and very out

As a Historian and a constitutional scholar I am very much in.

I took intro to philosophy and no Marx was required. But who taking philosophy or literature courses anyway?

well i mean there's topically not reason for you read marx if you're in compsci or biology or something lol
but usually philosophy or literature courses are part of a gen ed or something. 4/6 people i know had to read the communist manifesto and write about it for one of their gen eds

I completed graduate school with a degree in social work with no reading from Marx. He may have had a paragraph dedicated to him at most.

I mean like high school economics

I know uni/collage covers marx

did you take philosophy or literature courses? i had to read him as well, among other things. don't get me wrong, it was taught like absolute garbage, but it was there. that'd be an outlier if you took those courses but didn't have to read him

Textbooks be like: " Nothing bad ever happened, America is and always was perfect, the end"