His music never clicked for me literally until that album. Very very good album
This facts bruh was pretty much dropping insane mid and in each album he dropped he would only have like 1 or 2 good songs the Victory Lap album tho that s*** was actually solid
Juice WRLD was iconic I don’t care
He’s one of the biggest rappers of the 2020s even though he completely missed them
Fully and objectively iconic and massive with the youth. LToThe being out of touch as usual
It is strange how death endears people to artists. It takes the notion that scarcity is value to the extreme. The act itself seems harmless however. Is it worse than any other deranged fandom?
A death can definitely distort the narrative though. I think it's weird when people switch up. I thought Pop Smoke's growth was making him less interesting. I appreciate the EPs he made when he was alive far more than the commercial success he achieved after he died.
Mac Miller's career also got a huge bump from dying. He was kind of making music for himself and whittling down his fanbase. The sales speak to that. Then he died and someone else finished the album and people who weren't invested in his recent attempts really championed it.
You're right, I'm being a little too harsh on Nipsey here, but not because of Nipsey, mostly because I've seen too many people try to adopt this "Marathon / Hustler" aesthetic after he passed, almost like a contest of who was a bigger fan before he passed even though I know half them wasn't f***ing with him like that
Nipsey deserves the praise though, he was talking some real s*** fr
I remember a classic DeadEndHipHop podcast story from 2017 where they went to LA & Feefo was a big fan & made them go to Nipsey's store & he was ecstatic because he managed to dap up Nipsey & Black Sam
Things can definitely happen both ways though, I'm definitely sure you've actually seen folks faking like they were super fans from years ago so I hear you too
We all know that Game story of his son & the 'Nipsey Blue' lambo was fake asl but name-dropper Jayceon just wanted to attach himself to something that was hot at the time.
Sometimes folks try to overcompensate for things they were late to so that they seem like they were really down/in the know. Classic example is whenever there would be a new era of Kanye fans who first paid attention during whatever the current era was.
E.g. the TLOP fans who overheralded it as his best/their favourite ever or even the Vultures fans who would say it's his best (as it was the first they actually got to experience in real-time). (I say they are overcompensating because I've spoken to countless people who fit that bill & many would frequently tell me they wouldn't go back to his earlier albums because they are too old/'dated')
Oh they ain’t from the west coast
1.7k likes
Who the f*** cares what this person has to say
You only listen to people that get a lot of likes?
I felt this wayy aabout juiicee world but then i looked at his view counts and reaalized i was just out of touch
You only listen to people that get a lot of likes?
this not the hill you think it is man
Could’ve made this thread without Twitter too, been a thing since pac n big no matter how great they are. Hurts me to even type their names cuz I don’t feel that way about them
Could’ve made this thread without Twitter too, been a thing since pac n big no matter how great they are. Hurts me to even type their names cuz I don’t feel that way about them
op wouldvee been cooked ti DEATH! Linking a tweet wiith it removes all guilt
It is strange how death endears people to artists. It takes the notion that scarcity is value to the extreme. The act itself seems harmless however. Is it worse than any other deranged fandom?
A death can definitely distort the narrative though. I think it's weird when people switch up. I thought Pop Smoke's growth was making him less interesting. I appreciate the EPs he made when he was alive far more than the commercial success he achieved after he died.
Mac Miller's career also got a huge bump from dying. He was kind of making music for himself and whittling down his fanbase. The sales speak to that. Then he died and someone else finished the album and people who weren't invested in his recent attempts really championed it.
a lot of Mac Miller fans are invested in his music still, what are you talking about lmfao
to many Mac fans Circles is a classic. Swimming is a personal classic. his death definitely brought in more attention, but come on, the dude was dating Ariana, and doing features with any popping rappers at the time and a hot Ty$ and Thundercat. he wasn’t tryna whittle down his fanbase, it just naturally happened cause he was fighting d*** addiction
There was deffo people just wanting to be on the algorithm when he died. The most random people were in the mentions
It is strange how death endears people to artists. It takes the notion that scarcity is value to the extreme. The act itself seems harmless however. Is it worse than any other deranged fandom?
A death can definitely distort the narrative though. I think it's weird when people switch up. I thought Pop Smoke's growth was making him less interesting. I appreciate the EPs he made when he was alive far more than the commercial success he achieved after he died.
Mac Miller's career also got a huge bump from dying. He was kind of making music for himself and whittling down his fanbase. The sales speak to that. Then he died and someone else finished the album and people who weren't invested in his recent attempts really championed it.
I remember trying to make my friend play Swimming when it dropped & when he finally got around to it he text me about it on the day Mac died. I remember having a sad ass bus drive home a couple weeks later & playing So It Goes on loop.
The whole Pete/Ariana mess in the year leading up to it was so rough. Evil twitter folks making jokes like 'Travis Scott is the only person who dropped an album today'
Always respected Mac & knew he had a pure love for Hip Hop. Happy to see he got more respect/fans after his passing, although also mildly disgruntled that he gained many fans who only listen because he's also white/fans that don't listen to black rappers.
op wouldvee been cooked ti DEATH! Linking a tweet wiith it removes all guilt
Sir mike said it best, “why they wait to pay respect to a rapper til they’re dead, with pictures on their shirt with all the quotes that he said”
I remember a classic DeadEndHipHop podcast story from 2017 where they went to LA & Feefo was a big fan & made them go to Nipsey's store & he was ecstatic because he managed to dap up Nipsey & Black Sam
Things can definitely happen both ways though, I'm definitely sure you've actually seen folks faking like they were super fans from years ago so I hear you too
We all know that Game story of his son & the 'Nipsey Blue' lambo was fake asl but name-dropper Jayceon just wanted to attach himself to something that was hot at the time.
Sometimes folks try to overcompensate for things they were late to so that they seem like they were really down/in the know. Classic example is whenever there would be a new era of Kanye fans who first paid attention during whatever the current era was.
E.g. the TLOP fans who overheralded it as his best/their favourite ever or even the Vultures fans who would say it's his best (as it was the first they actually got to experience in real-time). (I say they are overcompensating because I've spoken to countless people who fit that bill & many would frequently tell me they wouldn't go back to his earlier albums because they are too old/'dated')
This was perfectly said bro. I need to come at it with a little more understanding and compassion. You're right it's just human instinct to want to be part of the group, I shouldn't be so critical of that
Oh they ain’t from the west coast
Oh I see..reading itt I see a lot of people didn’t really know about Nipsey like that until he died. In the LA area, it was a really sad day. He was a pillar of the community.
a lot of Mac Miller fans are invested in his music still, what are you talking about lmfao
to many Mac fans Circles is a classic. Swimming is a personal classic. his death definitely brought in more attention, but come on, the dude was dating Ariana, and doing features with any popping rappers at the time and a hot Ty$ and Thundercat. he wasn’t tryna whittle down his fanbase, it just naturally happened cause he was fighting d*** addiction
Mac Miller used to be a rapper for those in the know who are already tapped into music and his scene
Since he died he became a lot more well known and have heard a lot more about him after
But to be fair Swimming is his best album
Mac Miller used to be a rapper for those in the know who are already tapped into music and his scene
Since he died he became a lot more well known and have heard a lot more about him after
But to be fair Swimming is his best album
man I feel like ya’ll may not have experienced the right spaces then. I never thought people disliked or didn’t know Mac Miller
man was on Bang 3 and Divine Feminine is a mainstream album with women cause of Ariana lol. man was gone do his tour alongside Astroworld
Could’ve made this thread without Twitter too, been a thing since pac n big no matter how great they are. Hurts me to even type their names cuz I don’t feel that way about them
Pac and Big were literally the biggest Rappers out and of all time when they died lol
Sales, relevance and media
Big did get a few bump with all the puffy rereleasing in the 2000s and the post death 2pac albums but almost all those still went plat for both of them and they were revered in death the day they literally died (and before) -Pac already being seen as larger than life from the studio shooting and the early time when he shot a crooked cop and got off lol all while still making songs since Brenda Got a Baby and I Get Around and major albums since MATW, n Big was a massive figure in the underground Rap scene pumped as the #1 pick in many underground mags and shows for years until his debut that instantly went crazy
They both popped the major mainstream (and basically created the modern mainstream that lasted to the 2010s of Rap being the forefront) in 94 each then died in 96 and 97 when their peak still didn't even happen yet
Not to mention how many major careers were split off of these two and how many trends they literally started such as designer clothes with Versace from Pac and Coogi from Big etc. while being the face of the genre in pop culture arguably still to today
It is strange how death endears people to artists. It takes the notion that scarcity is value to the extreme. The act itself seems harmless however. Is it worse than any other deranged fandom?
A death can definitely distort the narrative though. I think it's weird when people switch up. I thought Pop Smoke's growth was making him less interesting. I appreciate the EPs he made when he was alive far more than the commercial success he achieved after he died.
Mac Miller's career also got a huge bump from dying. He was kind of making music for himself and whittling down his fanbase. The sales speak to that. Then he died and someone else finished the album and people who weren't invested in his recent attempts really championed it.
Mix of fomo and morbid curiosity
The masses love to ride the coattails of an artists demise just to feel something lol
man I feel like ya’ll may not have experienced the right spaces then. I never thought people disliked or didn’t know Mac Miller
man was on Bang 3 and Divine Feminine is a mainstream album with women cause of Ariana lol. man was gone do his tour alongside Astroworld
Nobody disliked him he was just not that big.
I remember being tapped to him around 2013 when he was hanging around TDE and OF.