I know growth is a mf and we're supposed to change
I'm glad he's being his true self and enjoying the fruits of his labor but man
It's weird to see him become the thing he said he hated when coming up. And I know it's genuine ofc, but damn man I really haven't been able to hear his stuff since Flower Boy.
This is the post that started this convo. Tyler publicly expressed his opinions, interests etc on certain things and over the last few years, he publicly expressed opinions that may be seen as the opposite. This is natural, most people don't have the same taste at 30 that they did at 17
Even if you believe he didn't believe any of that s*** when he was a kid and it was all insecurity/jokes or whatever - you can see why people think he switched up
Like if you're saying that he was trolling or whatever as a kid, you have to see where the narrative comes from
Real question did Tyler ever preach against materialism? This kinda reminds me of that moment when Frank fans were upset he wasn’t a socialist because that was the head cannon they created for him

Keep Da Os. Didn't preach against but that lil clip at the end makes it clear that rapping about cars, jewellery, money isn't something he thought he'd be doing


Idk what the original poster meant but clothes/materialism is one aspect of the "He switched up" narrative you see
When people say this, I can clearly see what they mean. Taste in art, thoughts on issues black people face, thoughts on gay people etc. If this nigga went on record multiple times saying certain things, then years later he says the opposite - even if you think it's due to insecurity/trolling or whatever back then, you should be able to see why people think "He changed"
I just don't get people acting confused by others believing that he's not the same but then they'll say "Oh that? Nah, he didn't actually mean that" whenever these contradictions are brought up
Like he's the one who said it himself, of course people believed him
'And I'm the only f*cking rapper without a chain'

The way he tried to be slick about starting to like flossing
'nah but i get different stuff, i got blue sapphires, i don't wear cuban links so i'm still not like them other folks'
Idk what the original poster meant but clothes/materialism is one aspect of the "He switched up" narrative you see
When people say this, I can clearly see what they mean. Taste in art, thoughts on issues black people face, thoughts on gay people etc. If this nigga went on record multiple times saying certain things, then years later he says the opposite - even if you think it's due to insecurity/trolling or whatever back then, you should be able to see why people think "He changed"
I just don't get people acting confused by others believing that he's not the same but then they'll say "Oh that? Nah, he didn't actually mean that" whenever these contradictions are brought up
Like he's the one who said it himself, of course people believed him
I understand it 100% but I just think its because people don’t have a full view of who he’s always been
I’m not trying to excuse his language so hopefully it doesn’t come off this way but Tyler has never been against actual gay people, I wish his formspring was still up but he used to congratulate fans for coming out of the closet to their parents and s***. Obviously you can’t blame someone for thinking he was, but Odd Future never came off like they hated gay people to me the F word used to be used way more casually during that time but obviously that’s wrong.
I get people being surprised but I think a lot of the things were always there. I think with Kanye for example his stance is basically he didnt like 808s & MBDTF and it seems like he still doesn’t its not like hes gone back and praised those, but he always mentioned Kanye as one of his inspirations and someone he wants to compete with over other rappers & I def dont think he hates Michael Jackson he said Off The Wall is one of his all time favorite albums.
I told you, end of Keep Da Os bruh
!https://youtu.be/UDt7ZZZ48cE?si=TTDRNTLySdjvRbaeEven if you don't think he's saying anything of substance, you don't see how notoriously homophobic and edgy rapper making a break up album about another guy is a 180? Not saying this is "becoming what he hated" but to say he's still the same guy he always was is insane
Tyler the creator making a breakup album about a guy sounds pretty edgy to me idk lol
I think a lot of people who are super surprised by tyler’s progression followed him on a surface level
Tyler from day one has been saying he wasnt gonna be doing edgy music forever and wants to make “pretty” music so I don’t really feel for people who are thrown off by that change because it didnt come out of nowhere
It’s literally the Earl likes Drakes Music?!?!?!?! Situation lol if you followed these guys for real since day one pretty much nothing has changed outside of the offensive lyrics
Tyler the creator making a breakup album about a guy sounds pretty edgy to me idk lol
And the homophobic part? This what I meant by you guys act obtuse, you just laser focused on one word
If you're aware of Tyler's early lyrics, I really don't need to explain why Garden Shed/Igor was seen as a complete 180 to a lot of people
That s*** crazy I found out about it as soon as I got off work last night but it was too late
i didnt know this mf had a whole diff socia media for DTTG F***
he love atlanta though so hopefully he'll be back soon
And the homophobic part? This what I meant by you guys act obtuse, you just laser focused on one word
If you're aware of Tyler's early lyrics, I really don't need to explain why Garden Shed/Igor was seen as a complete 180 to a lot of people
Yeah lol I’m saying the same guy being edgy with homophobia is also being edgy with his homoerotic lyrics lol. He has plenty of lines about f***ing white boys that I would call edgy.
I saw Tyler The Creator for like $5 lol trust I know his old lyrics.
But still nobody is answering the main question which was how did he become what he said he hated/ what did he hate that he has become?
Yeah lol I’m saying the same guy being edgy with homophobia is also being edgy with his homoerotic lyrics lol. He has plenty of lines about f***ing white boys that I would call edgy.
I saw Tyler The Creator for like $5 lol trust I know his old lyrics.
But still nobody is answering the main question which was how did he become what he said he hated/ what did he hate that he has become?
I just had the Keep Da Os thing and @Mitchell addressed that
I see why people maybe feel like he changed, but the nigga was also half his current age when he blew up and that's just life. But I see what y'all saying too about him always being this way