Heavy topic: But why not open the discourse some? In my opinion, suicide isn't so bad. That's not to say I ever encourage it, I of course always dissuade as you should do and you're taught to do.
But truly, if someone no longer wants to live what's wrong with that? I see a lot of people say it's selfish and think about the people you're hurting by leaving them behind. I don't think that's ever been good reasoning. If your existence is pain everyday and has been for years, it's not selfish to relieve your own pain, and being asked to endure that pain for years more just so the people left behind don't 'hurt' or 'feel bad' is just weak. Other people say there's so much more to live for, but if someone feels like they've seen all they need to see, and have no drive to keep pushing for higher and higher goals, what's wrong with that? People die everyday, if you do it on your own terms, so be it. We are essentially made to die and after that you fade into nothing, another human that just was, among billions of others before and after you that just, are.
if you choose to have kids (who are under 18) and you kill yourself you're a d***head
idk it's a pretty cruel thing to do against your loved ones, atleast make it look like an accident so they won't find u hanging
I personally cannot agree, but I also do not have the perspective of others who have felt that way. It’s an extremely complex issue that has a lot of gray when people try to make it black and white
I've said this before and I'll say it again:
Forcing people to stay alive against their own will is equivalent to killing someone who wants to live.
It’s too early to be this edgy
Why is everything edgy with you people? What did I say that was 'edgy'?
Nah cause some people got kids and just gonna abandon them
Eh that's different I suppose. But then again that person could just as easily become a deadbeat, and I feel like making the decision to become a deadbeat is easier and more common than turning your back on life as a whole.
I've said this before and I'll say it again:
Forcing people to stay alive against their own will is equivalent to killing someone who wants to live.
i wouldn’t say so, considering there’s is always a way out of a deep depression that makes someone want to die
but, if we are talking about someone who is terminally ill and in pain physically, that’s a different story. if they are confirmed to be dying soon anyway, that’s one thing
congrats or my condolences whatever it is i aint reading all that
I have some Adderall and Vyvanse which can help you focus, which do you prefer?
The issue with this is that most of the time those thoughts last a short period. So the majority of people who have suicidal thoughts usually stop having them.
It's not
Everyone goes through emotional pain at least once in their lives but it doesn't mean you should end it all, because you feel like you don't see the light in the end of tunnel and this is coming from someone who had heavy suicidal thoughts at one point.
My mind is that it's their life, their body, and therefore their choice. I have the same views with euthanasia.
If a person feels like they're in so much pain in their life that they just want to end it, who am I to determine what's best for them?
That being said, a lot of people who survive their suicide attempts have said that they instantly regretted it and was terrified of not living anymore.
Folks need to be reminded that we have no idea what's on the other side. Even for those who are religious. This could be our last ever moment of consciousness. There might not be a heaven. There might not be reincarnation. You could leave in an eternal void for all we know.
Live your life. May as well play it out. What's a couple decades to an eternity?
if you choose to have kids (who are under 18) and you kill yourself you're a d***head
The fact that somebody with those responsibilities would do such a thing is only more telling of the pain they were in themselves... I understand it could potentially continue the cycle of pain to the next generation if that child does not have the support structures around it to help come to peace with such traumas but... d***head is a bit strong!
Especially on the subject of psychological wellbeing... It's an area where applying your personal moral compass and what you think is right or wrong, is pretty unhelpful imo... Plus if they don't care to live, you think they truly care about such a stance? Would you ever say this to somebody who is suicidal? Applying "tough love" on a person who struggles to love themselves does more harm than good... imo!
i wouldn’t say so, considering there’s is always a way out of a deep depression that makes someone want to die
but, if we are talking about someone who is terminally ill and in pain physically, that’s a different story. if they are confirmed to be dying soon anyway, that’s one thing
Really depends. Depression can be no more than a chemical imbalance in your brain. Some people with mood stabilizing don't like the effects. They'll either feel robotic or so not caring that they hurt people around them, and so you're essentially asking someone to live in constant mental turmoil or live with medicine and such trying to correct you all the while making your existence just as strained but in a different way.
As far as suicide when you're a vegetable or disabled, I hope no one would argue against that.
congrats or my condolences whatever it is i aint reading all that
a thread that has “suicide” in the title isn’t the place to say some s*** like this dog
i wouldn’t say so, considering there’s is always a way out of a deep depression that makes someone want to die
but, if we are talking about someone who is terminally ill and in pain physically, that’s a different story. if they are confirmed to be dying soon anyway, that’s one thing
I completely respect your view.
Some people with diagnosed depression (like me) try things like therapy, medication, exercise, prayer, yoga, meditation and anything else but the chemical imbalance in their brain isn't always able to be leveled out.
The fact that somebody with those responsibilities would do such a thing is only more telling of the pain they were in themselves... I understand it could potentially continue the cycle of pain to the next generation if that child does not have the support structures around it to help come to peace with such traumas but... d***head is a bit strong!
Especially on the subject of psychological wellbeing... It's an area where applying your personal moral compass and what you think is right or wrong, is pretty unhelpful imo... Plus if they don't care to live, you think they truly care about such a stance? Would you ever say this to somebody who is suicidal? Applying "tough love" on a person who struggles to love themselves does more harm than good... imo!
Yes wiping yourself from existence is heavy. Death is something most of us fear, and none of us understands. I would never call someone who killed themselves a d***head regardless of what they've left behind, UNLESS, it's someone who killed themselves to avoid punishment ie Hitler.
idk it's a pretty cruel thing to do against your loved ones, atleast make it look like an accident so they won't find u hanging
Don’t like, 80% who attempt suicide by jumping (and survive) realize that their issue was solvable in the first place, MID-AIR??
Somebody pull the stat on that. I saw that a while back.
a thread that has “suicide” in the title isn’t the place to say some s*** like this dog