razzledazzle

5y

fromsoft is the best developer for the last 10 years

UIP

5y

spoken exactly like someone who is mad they’re so f***ing trash at Souls games

kusa

5y

you sound mad dumb right now cus ive beaten dark souls 3 and im playin through demon souls remake rn... i also played sekiro lmaoo

playin hard bosses doesnt feel rewardin if theres no story and attachment involved thats just me

UIP

5y

you played Sekiro and talmbout there’s no story?

the Souls games are way more cryptic and minimalist with their plots and lore, but coming to your own conclusions while playing and then reading other ppl’s interpretations is all part of the fun of em imo

UIP

6y

Uncharted after the first one is trash

Last of Us trash

Ghosts of Tushishit trash

Spider Man trash

kusa

5y

na i said soul games for a reason not sekiro, im jus sayin i'm not trashin these games cus they hard.

yeah i dont find it fun having to read lore to learn the story i'd rather go read a book

huey p rxcan

5y

well said

i feel like we’re a few years away from that dream like vision of a truly free game and i’m sure rockstar will be the ones to do it

but for now i still think an immersive story is the best way to approach video games and like u said it involves a good amount of « hand holding »

i think mgs v against its predecessors is a good example of this tension between a great narrative and great gameplay

it has the best gameplay of the series no doubt but it’s obvious it had to sacrifice a lot of story. a lot of people just blamed it on industry drama and that’s real. but at the same time i don’t think people have enough empathy to the dev team who had to figure out how to make this clunky spy game with tons of lore translate into a modern video game experience. i feel like they did really well with the big expectations.

what’s most interesting about that game is that it actually integrated player choice with narrative with the casssette tapes. it was done really well, it’s obvious why he picked a big movie star and the best voice actors in the industry. the cassettes are really good and have a great incentive to make players find them and listen to them since there’s not many cutscenes. also so many people hated the long cutscenes !

i just don’t think players understand what they really want from video games.

Fries

5y

It's tricky, I think BOTW is the only game so far to fulfil the potential of the open-world genre, the story, exploration, and gameplay are all woven in so well, it never stops being a game, there's always something to keep you engaged, and the lore feels like you're really recovering ancient relics to put the past together in your head

At the same time tho I prefer MGS4 to MGSV because of the story, even though the gameplay in V is insane, it just felt too empty in comparison and you could tell it was unfinished

I legit think devs should think about gameplay first and foremost and add a story that reflects the gameplay and is revealed in a manner as unobtrusive as possible, that's what FromSoft usually do and it works amazingly well, it's rare that game writers are as good as Kojima, I rarely have the patience for cutscene-heavy games these days

huey p rxcan

5y

nah unfinished isn’t a good enough critique for me anymore

as a die hard kohima fan, ofc i empathize with him and his dev team and it’s always f*** konami

did his vision get fulfilled completely? obviously not

but to say that it’s an unfinished game? there’s obviously a finished product here for better and for worse. idk if more hours of cutscenes would have gave players the sense of fulfillment they wanted i’m sorry.

a third region would be cool but i still find new s*** in afghanistan and then remember that i haven’t even touched half of the african region outside of main missions

with so much story in the cassettes and just so much goddamn game in it idk it just seems like another case of players wanting more without knowing exactly what they want

Fries

5y

I'm not saying my opinion's objective or anything, like I wish I got more out of it, but I definitely felt like something was missing when I beat it back in 2015, that was even before I found out about the whole Chapter 3 stuff

I played it again recently for the first time in years and it's probably the most immersive stealth game ever, but it just never fulfilled me in the way all the rest did, in a lot of ways I found RDR2 to be the game I wished MGSV was

This is just how I felt about it, but I found too much of it to be empty, a lot of the fields in Africa have nothing much going on, Mother Base is mostly just a model to walk around, it's still an amazing technical achievement though, the fact that it runs at 60fps on a base PS4 is insane

huey p rxcan

5y

nah ur opinion ain’t objective i hope i didn’t come off as attacking

it just seems to be the popular opinion, one that i had, but i honestly enjoyed the game so much more these past years

Fries

5y

It's chill man, I just worry sometimes about looking like I think my opinions are superior when really everything's subjective

Out of curiosity have you played the rest? I'm interested to hear what you think of them

huey p rxcan

5y

i get back to my house tonight u think i should actually try to finish 4 this time @Fries

Fries

5y

Yeah dude! The story is unreal, best of the series, gameplay is insanely detailed too, the fact that it fit so much on PS3 is hard to believe, it originally ran at about 18fps on average due to how much is always going on at one time

I'd say it'd be best to complete MGS1 first but I'd get if you just wanna go forward with it

The PS3 is a MGS machine, you can play literally every single main series game from the original MSX Metal Gear to MGSV on it

Completely agree with 3 being a comfort game too, just feels so good to immerse yourself in the low-tech approach and figure out locations for yourself

huey p rxcan

5y

yea i love going thru it without guides it’s insane how much the game can help you without making s*** obvious.

2/3 are basically the best puzzle games of all time for me lol

i love what u said about ps3 bc it’s how i feel about ps now. they removed mgs4 and i removed the subscription immediately. bought it again as soon as it came back. don’t mind paying $10 a month for mgs as dumb as that sounds it’s just how much i love the series

Fries

5y

Nah I know what you mean man, the series has the best game story ever, didn't know that about PS Now, that's crazy, I legit thought 4 was gonna be stuck on the PS3 forever, like it's such a bizarrely put-together game I'm not even sure a Switch could run it these days

From what I've seen it looks like it might run slightly better too? I dunno tho, if it's just streaming from a PS3 then obviously not, but I never noticed the framerate affecting my enjoyment, and I played on a 480p TV back in the day

huey p rxcan

5y

nah the framerate dips are there on top of streaming frame rates that vary depending on time of day for me

Fries

5y

I hope one day Kojima and Konami can work something out and do some proper remasters man

A funny thing that impacts the gigantic size of MGS4 is Kojima insisting every sound had to be WAV quality, on the PS3 you had to watch Snake smoking for like 20 minutes while it installed a bunch of data to the console that was mainly just audio stuff

Fries

5y

Yeah dude! The story is unreal, best of the series, gameplay is insanely detailed too, the fact that it fit so much on PS3 is hard to believe, it originally ran at about 18fps on average due to how much is always going on at one time

I'd say it'd be best to complete MGS1 first but I'd get if you just wanna go forward with it

The PS3 is a MGS machine, you can play literally every single main series game from the original MSX Metal Gear to MGSV on it

Completely agree with 3 being a comfort game too, just feels so good to immerse yourself in the low-tech approach and figure out locations for yourself