F*** Israel

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F*** em

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Nazi

Ok, now what?

Israeli lobbys have way too much influence on US politics...its scary.

Israel may be the only country in the world that is "above the law". They can occupy and murder without any consequences, and as a matter of fact get rewarded more than before.

yeah it’s cause that thing known as israel doesn’t exist

first off, OP, you're slightly misleading people. here's the bill - congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/3176/text - it has not passed. it passed a committee, it has not been signed into law yet. It has yet to go through the senate & house, so the lack of it being televised was because it was a singular committee, which has often happened prior. It's not like it's been rushed into law bearing complete shielding from any form of public view. second off, this isn't just a foreign aid package to use on whatever they want; it's a joint military cooperation bill. in other words, it's not Israeli just taking money from the US to do whatever, it's the US setting a joint budget alongside Israel to push US Foreign Interest in the middle east. While this may seem like "well doesn't it have the same effect?" distinction, this is incredibly important to note - mainly because, again, it's not like this bill is promoting the US funneling aimless money to Israel because of lobbying; the bill is just a continued extension of US middle eastern military policy.

That is worthy of criticism separately. The certifications of the law even say "(the law) is in the national security interest of the United States." I implore you to widen your criticisms to apply to the US Military-Complex as a whole rather than focusing in on this as being some Israeli conspiracy, as that angle devalues actual issues underlining this type of foreign policy. "38B" as a historical amount is slightly misleading - it makes it seem like it's 38B out of the current budget. Sec 103 of the law says "not less than $3.3B". If you're assuming $38B because of $3.8B over ten years, this is not a historical amount not anything new; prior aid to Israel was around $3.2B. This is not even the biggest aid the US gives - $5B to Afghanistan, and $3.5B to Iraq. Out of that that $3.2B per year (you can see breakdowns of this from around 2017 and prior), $3.1B was military; only $0.9B was aimed at the general economy; this compares to $5B in Afghanistan, where $3.5B was military and $1.5B was economic. This is an important distinction because it again shows the wiggle room of the Military Complex when dealing with Israel. It's not like the money is just going to random Israelis.

it is important to note that i'm not defending Israel's government nor AIPAC & the obvious Israeli lobby. It's just that discussion regarding anything with both Israel & the US Military is always insanely skewed. Details when discussing this are important.

saying israel doesnt exist is like ignoring the problem.

interesting.

Thanks for clearing this up.

Still crazy how US fully supports Israeli military occupation, and also increases the amount just as Israel approved this year more Palestinian land theft (about 30% of the West Bank).

Its hypocritical since US is always ready to sanction and cut ties with countries from doing stuff much less than what Israel does on daily basis.

I don't see how anyone can be surprised by US-Israel relations. It's deeper than just the US being lobbied by Israel. The US has highly specific foreign interests in the middle east both because of the military complex as well as geopolitical staging against Syria & Iran (which link back to regional disputes from regional allyships with Russia too). The US support of Israel is not just because of favoritism towards Israel - it's purposeful suppression of the Palestinian state to prevent foreign powers against US interests (which coincide with Saudi and other regional interests thanks to shared economics) from gaining a further foothold in the region.
This is why I cannot stand it when people say it's an Israeli Zionist conspiracy. No, it's not - it's deflecting the blame from the literal US itself. There's no puppet master manipulating the strings. The US government is guilty of getting Israel to commit human rights abuses in the middle east, NOT vice-versa. The US actively supports this because it's in their militarist-economic interest, not because Zionists control the US.

you type Israel in on twitter and its not anywhere close to the top

I guess they really can suppress this

I agree with you, but saying that US is somehow guilty of GETTING israel to commit these crimes is also crazy.

Israel is a democracy, the people of israel are guilty everyday for watching what is happening to the palestinians everyday and doing nothing, but actually supporting it regardless.

Its their government, its their military. I dont doubt that the US encourages it, but this is blood on Israelis hand first and foremost.

And trying to justify such actions as "we have to suppress these people to protect our interests and country" is morally wrong and actually psychopathic.

I think we basically agree. Like the US, despite being a "democracy", there is a lot of political corruption in Israel too. Don't get me wrong, zionists exist - there are people in Israel who think Palestinians are subhuman. But this is not the driver of universal foreign policy , the real driver of policy is military-economic regional interest.
I'm just saying the bottom line is both countries carry a level of guilt and this is outside of any wider conspiracy.

keep dreaming g

There is no debate in the senate. Israel is a consensus topic for the vast majority of congress. The democratic establishment believe more strongly in US-Israeli relations than just about anything. Republicans obviously support it too, but they tend to have domestic issues that animate their politics as well.

Yeah not like Americans are really struggling right now or like our schools and infrastructure needs that kind of money..
Having food on the table and having access to clean water is overrated!

What a king

im so shocked.