https://twitter.com/8star8/status/1480975501015478274?s=20
Original article (edited article is in the tweet thread): archive.fo/2022.01.10-165017/https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2022/01/10/pedophiles-pedophilia-sexual-disorder/8768423002/?gnt-cfr=1
The article itself acts as if it's only supporting harm reduction, but cites an individual with documented ties to an organization with a history of employing convicted child molesters.
4w.pub/usa-today-cites-prostasia-figure-for-pedophilia-article
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This isnt even controversial though. This is common knowledge in psychology. Doesnt mean they are normalizing it.
The only problem I see is the citation of that shady organization inside the article. But the tweets don't seem too wild tbh. Although the first tweet is sus because I reckon life events probably can cause pedophilia as well, to say it is 100% inborn ignores all the childhood abuse a lot of them went through before becoming abusers themselves.
This isnt even controversial though. This is common knowledge in psychology. Doesnt mean they are normalizing it.
The only problem I see is the citation of that shady organization inside the article. But the tweets don't seem too wild tbh. Although the first tweet is sus because I reckon life events probably can cause pedophilia as well, to say it is 100% inborn ignores all the childhood abuse a lot of them went through before becoming abusers themselves.
Pedophilia is a mental illness of sorts, doesn't mean they are all child molesters. That's just factually true. Why you guys gotta be so emotional about everything
They are sick in the mind but not all of them act upon their urges. The word itself just means being attracted to children.
This isnt even controversial though. This is common knowledge in psychology. Doesnt mean they are normalizing it.
The only problem I see is the citation of that shady organization inside the article. But the tweets don't seem too wild tbh. Although the first tweet is sus because I reckon life events probably can cause pedophilia as well, to say it is 100% inborn ignores all the childhood abuse a lot of them went through before becoming abusers themselves.
Nah it's the context.
I support rehabilitation for people with the mental disorder and harm prevention.
But when it's being pushed (with blatant distortions of fact) by someone with ties to an organization with a history of s*** like this:
"Hamilton-Smith, a lawyer in the state of Kentucky, wrote several times for the Prostasia blog that measures to keep registered s***offenders away from children, such as school-zone bans, were ineffective and unnecessary.
A quick search in the publicly available database of registered s***offenders found that Guy Hamilton-Smith was registered after being caught with child sexual exploitation material."
That's extremely sus.
"Not all people who sexually abuse children are pedophiles"
Pedophiles are adults. It is possible for an older child/teenager to abuse a younger one, that would also be child abuse, but wouldn't count as pedophilia.
There are also adult perpetrators who are more interested in the abuse of power towards children than in the children themselves. Those would also not be pedophiles in a strict sense, but they would absolutely be child molesters.
Nah it's the context.
I support rehabilitation for people with the mental disorder and harm prevention.
But when it's being pushed (with blatant distortions of fact) by someone with ties to an organization with a history of s*** like this:
"Hamilton-Smith, a lawyer in the state of Kentucky, wrote several times for the Prostasia blog that measures to keep registered s***offenders away from children, such as school-zone bans, were ineffective and unnecessary.
A quick search in the publicly available database of registered s***offenders found that Guy Hamilton-Smith was registered after being caught with child sexual exploitation material."
That's extremely sus.
The tweets are not so bad, but you are right, the article itself is worse. My suspicion is that they want to make pedophilia the next letter in LGBT - the guy you quote supports this - and claiming that pedophilia is 100% inborn (which is what some people also claim about homosexuality) is the first step to do so. Protasia or whatever they are called are weirdos, as are most of these "advocates".
I just think it is possible for some guys to be really sick in the head, possibly from being molested themselves, who deserve a fair shot at therapy without being ostracized. So to separate pedophilia as a mental illness from child molestation allows that destigmatization to occur. The problem comes when this destigmatization leads to normalization, here I agree with you - pedophilia is not just another sexual orientation, it is a mental illness that needs to be cured. Children cannot consent, and adults who are attracted to them are sexual deviants. I don't accept for one bit that this is in any way comparable to hetero- or homosexuality.
So this whats next huh
I believe pedophiles are born that way, like it’s something in they brain wired already from birth
But that don’t excuse anything, they know it’s wrong and so should not act upon it
The tweets are not so bad, but you are right, the article itself is worse. My suspicion is that they want to make pedophilia the next letter in LGBT - the guy you quote supports this - and claiming that pedophilia is 100% inborn (which is what some people also claim about homosexuality) is the first step to do so. Protasia or whatever they are called are weirdos, as are most of these "advocates".
I just think it is possible for some guys to be really sick in the head, possibly from being molested themselves, who deserve a fair shot at therapy without being ostracized. So to separate pedophilia as a mental illness from child molestation allows that destigmatization to occur. The problem comes when this destigmatization leads to normalization, here I agree with you - pedophilia is not just another sexual orientation, it is a mental illness that needs to be cured. Children cannot consent, and adults who are attracted to them are sexual deviants. I don't accept for one bit that this is in any way comparable to hetero- or homosexuality.
Yeah, treatment and therapy could definitely be solutions. Society can try to treat them while also protecting children.
But Prostasia, given their track record, seems to be trying to manipulate the discourse and turn it into some other s***. Like, "Oh, they can't help it. Society should embrace them"
They're sus but not idiots. They know they're not going to get what they want by saying what's actually on their minds.
Yeah, treatment and therapy could definitely be solutions. Society can try to treat them while also protecting children.
But Prostasia, given their track record, seems to be trying to manipulate the discourse and turn it into some other s***. Like, "Oh, they can't help it. Society should embrace them"
They're sus but not idiots. They know they're not going to get what they want by saying what's actually on their minds.
What’s Prostasia? In Greek the word means “protection”. Don’t tel me it’s an organization that protects pedofiles
What’s Prostasia? In Greek the word means “protection”. Don’t tel me it’s an organization that protects pedofiles
4w.pub/prostasia-normalize-pedophilia
I'd post a bigger source but it's difficult to find professional coverage of the group for whatever reason.
https://4w.pub/prostasia-normalize-pedophilia/
I'd post a bigger source but it's difficult to find professional coverage of the group for whatever reason.
What the f*** bro, I thoguht that MAP s*** was an elaborate troll. No way it’s becoming a legitimate movement