NICEMAN

3y

There's no way this show warrants that much typing..

Unforgivable

3y

No way this is some of the shows dialogue, please tell me this is fake

Fka Groovy

3y

I feel like a healthy dose of reality and constructive criticism will do wonders in the fight for representation and equality people are trying to push. And yes, there's a very large portion of commentary over this show that is just those anti-sjw grifters b****ing about something to farm views that have no real convictions or care for the source material.

I love Scooby Doo. I watched it all the time.

Scooby Doo is a good show to pallet swap. The characters have not and never will be defined by their whiteness, their cultures shift from series to series. It's a great show to play with this trope as long as some constants stay the same:

• Fred is the fearless leader and architect
• Daphne is the friendly, bubbly glue and looks
• Velma is the brainy, witty problem solver
• Shaggy and Scooby are the heart and powerhouses

Since they're all so different and still friends, things get pretty funny. The comedy writes itself.

Well, for they start off f***ing up by making all the characters do a 180. The worst is Norville. Why even have this character who's supposed to be the Shaggy stand in... Who isn't even like shaggy? Are they supposed to become what they were later...? Do they not want us to connect it to the original. This show NEEDS a straight man. It should have been Fred.

If that's the case, just make new characters. This show needs a Norville. It just shouldn't be the Shaggy stand in. He has no connection to Shaggy, he doesn't like food, he doesn't have a dog, he's not always baked, he doesn't have his van, he doesn't do s*** but sniff Velma's farts and act like a simp.

Which, btw, exposes one of Mindy's (or the team of writers') s***ty world views. Of which she has many. That being a decent person means you should get used and abused by s***ty people and all you come across as is a try-harding simp.

Simping shouldn't always get you the girl, that could be a rare case of this trope played right as unsatisfying as it is narratively, pain can be a good writing tool. And it's at least realistic. But then if that's true, have the character get some kind of catharsis and find his self worth inwardly. Because guess what?

It's okay, he gets a girl later and I'm sure there will be drama. The trailer spoiled it. But since this character won't be an mc and instead an OC who won't last since this is Scooby Doo and revolves around the main cast, let's hope they don't make a habit out of inventing throwaway consolation characters to make up for problematic writing that can be solved by making characters actually likeable and not oblivious, abrasive twats.

Creating throwaway POC love interests for your POC simping MC isn't answering the character flaw. Just solving a problem you created.

Similarly, because none of the characters are anything close to their counterparts, it feels like performative diversity. Their cultural backgrounds were never based on whether they were white, or black, so go ahead and swap them. You don't need a reason to. However, when you specifically point out that Fred sucks because he's white yet no other character has any cultural significance... It's so obviously pointed. No one appreciates this.

This show is ass. By all accounts from any side of any cultural perspective you're trying to take up arms for, this show is ASS. It's pretty blatantly a self insert POV where the MC just relentlessly vomits her s***ty world view at the audience and since the character is supposed to be a genius, you're supposed to see that she's spitting hard facts that no one wants to accept. Except instead of making a new, Scooby Doo inspired gang, they just take the Scooby Doo IP and just pallet swap them. Completely, not just appearance wise.

The show sexualizes 15 year olds to an uncomfortable degree. I don't care that it's a cartoon. It's weird when anime does it, it's weird here. Just age them up ffs. They're in highschool. Just make them 18 or college aged idk. It'd also make more sense since, while all the characters act like petulant teens so 15 isn't crazy, they are bizarrely thinking like adults at times because idk... The show is written by f***ing 40 year olds. 40 year olds don't think like teens. It's jarring.

Quit doing that goofy ass Big Mouth (awful show) humor thing. 40 year olds pretending to be teens is always f***ing goofy.

What sucks worse is that instead of acknowledging that all these characters suck major ass, they try to hang a lampshade over the very obvious faults just to completely play that s*** straight like... Not even really trying just blatantly saying we know this sucks but we're gonna go ahead and do it anyway...?

It's more problematic that Mindy's view on things are so judgemental and binary. The show espouses how they seek to subvert stereotypes and be inclusive...

Yet the bulk of these first two episodes is spent on emasculating Fred because he's white and a man and therefore needs to be made fun of for it and definitely has a tiny ass d***. Hilarious, how's that body positivity going? Velma is the short, fat, subversive POC protagonist on a mission to hate every white male for having a small d***. Something he can't change lmao.

Remember when I say the show needs a straight man? It's not about sexual orientation. A straight man is the one who keeps all the shenanigans grounded. All these characters are abysmal, sans Norville who is a doormat cosplaying as Shaggy. If it was gonna be anyone, it should have been Fred. It's in line with his character. He could have still been privileged but played it straight. Instead he's this awful, self obsessed, inept, hateful depiction of the writers' view of white men.

The worst part? The irony will not be observed by Mindy Kaling or the writers. This is their world view, in their mind Velma spouting all this bullshit is like how nihilist neckbeards viewed Rick Sanchez spouting all his bullshit: they are right and you don't want to accept it, but it doesn't matter. Except like most people, they don't understand the concept behind Rick Sanchez she just saw a winning formula and tried to ape it.

You're not supposed to like Rick. He has issues. And his issues aren't cute and witty, they're destructive and as such nobody wants to be around him. Yet Velma has people f***ing pining over her- in real life NONE OF YOU WOULD EVER BE FRIENDS WITH THIS PERSON. Why does every modern show need to be Rick and Morty/Bojack Horseman? S***ty MC with unhealed trauma alienating themselves from those around them?

They try to touch on this with Velma's mom leaving them being a story or something...? But tbh, that just makes her mom an a******. It only reinforces what's wrong with the show. No one has any self awareness. What is this bizarre reality these writers live in?

How could this person ever become the witty problem solver? She isn't smart. She cheats off Norville and whiler her lack of social skills has been a trope in the past, she's not lacking social skills because she's a bookworm. She lacks them because she's an awful, s***ty person. Yet 2 of the main cast falls for her because...? Right because this is a Mindy Kaling self insert.

Right now this show is ass. If all the characters somehow do 180s, like Velma somehow talking way less and being a lot more empathetic and actually getting smart, or Norville getting baked and becoming a pothead and buys a dog, or Fred takes steroids grows to be 6'1 and has some balls, or Daphne just becomes a likeable popular girl and they stop objectifying her while hanging a lamp shade over it.

But as of right now, this show is booty cheeks. This show is ass-ASS. Rant over.

Fka Groovy

3y

I feel like a healthy dose of reality and constructive criticism will do wonders in the fight for representation and equality people are trying to push. And yes, there's a very large portion of commentary over this show that is just those anti-sjw grifters b****ing about something to farm views that have no real convictions or care for the source material.

I love Scooby Doo. I watched it all the time.

Scooby Doo is a good show to pallet swap. The characters have not and never will be defined by their whiteness, their cultures shift from series to series. It's a great show to play with this trope as long as some constants stay the same:

• Fred is the fearless leader and architect
• Daphne is the friendly, bubbly glue and looks
• Velma is the brainy, witty problem solver
• Shaggy and Scooby are the heart and powerhouses

Since they're all so different and still friends, things get pretty funny. The comedy writes itself.

Well, for they start off f***ing up by making all the characters do a 180. The worst is Norville. Why even have this character who's supposed to be the Shaggy stand in... Who isn't even like shaggy? Are they supposed to become what they were later...? Do they not want us to connect it to the original. This show NEEDS a straight man. It should have been Fred.

If that's the case, just make new characters. This show needs a Norville. It just shouldn't be the Shaggy stand in. He has no connection to Shaggy, he doesn't like food, he doesn't have a dog, he's not always baked, he doesn't have his van, he doesn't do s*** but sniff Velma's farts and act like a simp.

Which, btw, exposes one of Mindy's (or the team of writers') s***ty world views. Of which she has many. That being a decent person means you should get used and abused by s***ty people and all you come across as is a try-harding simp.

Simping shouldn't always get you the girl, that could be a rare case of this trope played right as unsatisfying as it is narratively, pain can be a good writing tool. And it's at least realistic. But then if that's true, have the character get some kind of catharsis and find his self worth inwardly. Because guess what?

It's okay, he gets a girl later and I'm sure there will be drama. The trailer spoiled it. But since this character won't be an mc and instead an OC who won't last since this is Scooby Doo and revolves around the main cast, let's hope they don't make a habit out of inventing throwaway consolation characters to make up for problematic writing that can be solved by making characters actually likeable and not oblivious, abrasive twats.

Creating throwaway POC love interests for your POC simping MC isn't answering the character flaw. Just solving a problem you created.

Similarly, because none of the characters are anything close to their counterparts, it feels like performative diversity. Their cultural backgrounds were never based on whether they were white, or black, so go ahead and swap them. You don't need a reason to. However, when you specifically point out that Fred sucks because he's white yet no other character has any cultural significance... It's so obviously pointed. No one appreciates this.

This show is ass. By all accounts from any side of any cultural perspective you're trying to take up arms for, this show is ASS. It's pretty blatantly a self insert POV where the MC just relentlessly vomits her s***ty world view at the audience and since the character is supposed to be a genius, you're supposed to see that she's spitting hard facts that no one wants to accept. Except instead of making a new, Scooby Doo inspired gang, they just take the Scooby Doo IP and just pallet swap them. Completely, not just appearance wise.

The show sexualizes 15 year olds to an uncomfortable degree. I don't care that it's a cartoon. It's weird when anime does it, it's weird here. Just age them up ffs. They're in highschool. Just make them 18 or college aged idk. It'd also make more sense since, while all the characters act like petulant teens so 15 isn't crazy, they are bizarrely thinking like adults at times because idk... The show is written by f***ing 40 year olds. 40 year olds don't think like teens. It's jarring.

Quit doing that goofy ass Big Mouth (awful show) humor thing. 40 year olds pretending to be teens is always f***ing goofy.

What sucks worse is that instead of acknowledging that all these characters suck major ass, they try to hang a lampshade over the very obvious faults just to completely play that s*** straight like... Not even really trying just blatantly saying we know this sucks but we're gonna go ahead and do it anyway...?

It's more problematic that Mindy's view on things are so judgemental and binary. The show espouses how they seek to subvert stereotypes and be inclusive...

Yet the bulk of these first two episodes is spent on emasculating Fred because he's white and a man and therefore needs to be made fun of for it and definitely has a tiny ass d***. Hilarious, how's that body positivity going? Velma is the short, fat, subversive POC protagonist on a mission to hate every white male for having a small d***. Something he can't change lmao.

Remember when I say the show needs a straight man? It's not about sexual orientation. A straight man is the one who keeps all the shenanigans grounded. All these characters are abysmal, sans Norville who is a doormat cosplaying as Shaggy. If it was gonna be anyone, it should have been Fred. It's in line with his character. He could have still been privileged but played it straight. Instead he's this awful, self obsessed, inept, hateful depiction of the writers' view of white men.

The worst part? The irony will not be observed by Mindy Kaling or the writers. This is their world view, in their mind Velma spouting all this bullshit is like how nihilist neckbeards viewed Rick Sanchez spouting all his bullshit: they are right and you don't want to accept it, but it doesn't matter. Except like most people, they don't understand the concept behind Rick Sanchez she just saw a winning formula and tried to ape it.

You're not supposed to like Rick. He has issues. And his issues aren't cute and witty, they're destructive and as such nobody wants to be around him. Yet Velma has people f***ing pining over her- in real life NONE OF YOU WOULD EVER BE FRIENDS WITH THIS PERSON. Why does every modern show need to be Rick and Morty/Bojack Horseman? S***ty MC with unhealed trauma alienating themselves from those around them?

They try to touch on this with Velma's mom leaving them being a story or something...? But tbh, that just makes her mom an a******. It only reinforces what's wrong with the show. No one has any self awareness. What is this bizarre reality these writers live in?

How could this person ever become the witty problem solver? She isn't smart. She cheats off Norville and whiler her lack of social skills has been a trope in the past, she's not lacking social skills because she's a bookworm. She lacks them because she's an awful, s***ty person. Yet 2 of the main cast falls for her because...? Right because this is a Mindy Kaling self insert.

Right now this show is ass. If all the characters somehow do 180s, like Velma somehow talking way less and being a lot more empathetic and actually getting smart, or Norville getting baked and becoming a pothead and buys a dog, or Fred takes steroids grows to be 6'1 and has some balls, or Daphne just becomes a likeable popular girl and they stop objectifying her while hanging a lamp shade over it.

But as of right now, this show is booty cheeks. This show is ass-ASS. Rant over.

Unforgivable

3y

Cause spewing anti white rhetoric is corny af and shouldn’t be celebrated

Smacked Voodoo

3y

On the contrary it is hilarious and any time cacs get rightfully s*** on is a wonderful time.

NICEMAN

3y

There's no way this show warrants that much typing..

ragedsycokiller

3y

But Mindy does it for every show and she still f***s with white people at the end of the day

So it's corny af cause she still wants white people eating up her s***.

Smacked Voodoo

3y

Issa two things can be true situation here. Yes dunking on cacs is a grand ol time for everybody, and yes Mindy is a cornball for doing it while still twerking for white acceptance/praise.

Gotta go by a case by case basis. But more often than that it's always a good time.

Cherrywine

3y

I feel like the whole “this show is soooo bad” thing is a marketing tactic to get me to watch this show just to see how bad it is.

Whether I’m right or not, I’ve decided I’m not gonna waste my time watching this piece of s***

orangetcovid

3y

Spicy c***ok

NobodyWins

3y

This s*** is not funny and is middle school level humor. If this gets a second season then hbo max is f***ing insane.

The end of my review thanks for reading.

youdaftpunk

3y

· edited

already approved s2 LMAO and this was after everyone started hating
https://screenrant.com/velma-season-2-renewed-hbo-max-report/

Unforgivable

3y

Cause spewing anti white rhetoric is corny af and shouldn’t be celebrated

insertcoolnamehere

3y

because of all yall dumb niggas hate watching lmao

Theory Talk Trader

3y

they turned outrage bait into a tv show, and it worked

orangetcovid

3y

But I feel like a healthy dose of reality and constructive criticism will do wonders in the fight for representation and equality people are trying to push. And yes, there's a very large portion of commentary over this show that is just those anti-sjw grifters b****ing about something to farm views that have no real convictions or care for the source material.
I love Scooby Doo. I watched it all the time.
Scooby Doo is a good show to pallet swap. The characters have not and never will be defined by their whiteness, their cultures shift from series to series. It's a great show to play with this trope as long as some constants stay the same:
Fred is the fearless leader and architect
Daphne is the friendly, bubbly glue and looks
Velma is the brainy, witty problem solver
Shaggy and Scooby are the heart and powerhouses
Since they're all so different and still friends, things get pretty funny. The comedy writes itself.
Well, for they start off f***ing up by making all the characters do a 180. The worst is Norville. Why even have this character who's supposed to be the Shaggy stand in... Who isn't even like shaggy? Are they supposed to become what they were later...? Do they not want us to connect it to the original. This show NEEDS a straight man. It should have been Fred.
If that's the case, just make new characters. This show needs a Norville. It just shouldn't be the Shaggy stand in. He has no connection to Shaggy, he doesn't like food, he doesn't have a dog, he's not always baked, he doesn't have his van, he doesn't do s*** but sniff Velma's farts and act like a simp.
Which, btw, exposes one of Mindy's (or the team of writers') s***ty world views. Of which she has many. That being a decent person means you should get used and abused by s***ty people and all you come across as is a try-harding simp.
Simping shouldn't always get you the girl, that could be a rare case of this trope played right as unsatisfying as it is narratively, pain can be a good writing tool. And it's at least realistic. But then if that's true, have the character get some kind of catharsis and find his self worth inwardly. Because guess what?
It's okay, he gets a girl later and I'm sure there will be drama. The trailer spoiled it. But since this character won't be an mc and instead an OC who won't last since this is Scooby Doo and revolves around the main cast, let's hope they don't make a habit out of inventing throwaway consolation characters to make up for problematic writing that can be solved by making characters actually likeable and not oblivious, abrasive twats.
Creating throwaway POC love interests for your POC simping MC isn't answering the character flaw. Just solving a problem you created.
Similarly, because none of the characters are anything close to their counterparts, it feels like performative diversity. Their cultural backgrounds were never based on whether they were white, or black, so go ahead and swap them. You don't need a reason to. However, when you specifically point out that Fred sucks because he's white yet no other character has any cultural significance... It's so obviously pointed. No one appreciates this.
This show is ass. By all accounts from any side of any cultural perspective you're trying to take up arms for, this show is ASS. It's pretty blatantly a self insert POV where the MC just relentlessly vomits her s***ty world view at the audience and since the character is supposed to be a genius, you're supposed to see that she's spitting hard facts that no one wants to accept. Except instead of making a new, Scooby Doo inspired gang, they just take the Scooby Doo IP and just pallet swap them. Completely, not just appearance wise.
The show sexualizes 15 year olds to an uncomfortable degree. I don't care that it's a cartoon. It's weird when anime does it, it's weird here. Just age them up ffs. They're in highschool. Just make them 18 or college aged idk. It'd also make more sense since, while all the characters act like petulant teens so 15 isn't crazy, they are bizarrely thinking like adults at times because idk... The show is written by f***ing 40 year olds. 40 year olds don't think like teens. It's jarring.
Quit doing that goofy ass Big Mouth (awful show) humor thing. 40 year olds pretending to be teens is always f***ing goofy.
What sucks worse is that instead of acknowledging that all these characters suck major ass, they try to hang a lampshade over the very obvious faults just to completely play that s*** straight like... Not even really trying just blatantly saying we know this sucks but we're gonna go ahead and do it anyway...?
It's more problematic that Mindy's view on things are so judgemental and binary. The show espouses how they seek to subvert stereotypes and be inclusive...
Yet the bulk of these first two episodes is spent on emasculating Fred because he's white and a man and therefore needs to be made fun of for it and definitely has a tiny ass d***. Hilarious, how's that body positivity going? Velma is the short, fat, subversive POC protagonist on a mission to hate every white male for having a small d***. Something he can't change lmao.
Remember when I say the show needs a straight man? It's not about sexual orientation. A straight man is the one who keeps all the shenanigans grounded. All these characters are abysmal, sans Norville who is a doormat cosplaying as Shaggy. If it was gonna be anyone, it should have been Fred. It's in line with his character. He could have still been privileged but played it straight. Instead he's this awful, self obsessed, inept, hateful depiction of the writers' view of white men.
The worst part? The irony will not be observed by Mindy Kaling or the writers. This is their world view, in their mind Velma spouting all this bullshit is like how nihilist neckbeards viewed Rick Sanchez spouting all his bullshit: they are right and you don't want to accept it, but it doesn't matter. Except like most people, they don't understand the concept behind Rick Sanchez she just saw a winning formula and tried to ape it.
You're not supposed to like Rick. He has issues. And his issues aren't cute and witty, they're destructive and as such nobody wants to be around him. Yet Velma has people f***ing pining over her- in real life NONE OF YOU WOULD EVER BE FRIENDS WITH THIS PERSON. Why does every modern show need to be Rick and Morty/Bojack Horseman? S***ty MC with unhealed trauma alienating themselves from those around them?
They try to touch on this with Velma's mom leaving them being a story or something...? But tbh, that just makes her mom an a******. It only reinforces what's wrong with the show. No one has any self awareness. What is this bizarre reality these writers live in?
How could this person ever become the witty problem solver? She isn't smart. She cheats off Norville and whiler her lack of social skills has been a trope in the past, she's not lacking social skills because she's a bookworm. She lacks them because she's an awful, s***ty person. Yet 2 of the main cast falls for her because...? Right because this is a Mindy Kaling self insert.
Right now this show is ass. If all the characters somehow do 180s, like Velma somehow talking way less and being a lot more empathetic and actually getting smart, or Norville getting baked and becoming a pothead and buys a dog, or Fred takes steroids grows to be 6'1 and has some balls, or Daphne just becomes a likeable popular girl and they stop objectifying her while hanging a lamp shade over it.
But as of right now, this show is booty cheeks. This show is ass-ASS. Rant over.

Shut up c***

NICEMAN

3y

There's no way this show warrants that much typing..