I think introducing Zosia to Carol in the first place was a smart play by the Others. Especially because they found someone who looked like the main character from Carol's books (who they knew was originally meant to be a woman, via Helen's memories).

I also think that the plan to use Zosia to turn Carol, or at least, to get her to quit her mission to change things back to how they used to be, will eventually backfire on the Others because I don't think it'll be an easy fix getting the whole world back to the way it was. I think Carol would have to first succeed in turning 1 person back and I think that person will be Zosia.

Of course, once that happens, it'll be interesting to see how the real, actual Zosia will react.

Yeah exactly this . In finale I’m thinking zoisia will be the one who breaks from hive . Wondering why we aren’t sure if the last attempts changed her at all . It’s possible it did then the milk and cuddles resynced her

It's a lot of places they could take it. Does Zosia lose all the knowledge she gained from being a part of the Others when she changes back to normal? Does she even want anything to do with Carol once that happens? How different will the real Zosia be to the Zosia Carol has come to like and care for?

I really hope episode 9 delivers.

Agreed. I think this show is scratching some very specific itches about morality and agency thats hitting its viewers inluding myself in an unexpected and disarming way

As for shippers, I used to have major issues with them (still do in some circles) but they get so silly and creative they won me over hard. My favorite part of prestige tv and "cinema" is being able to let a breath out and get goofy with the more unserious side of fandom. I probably am biased!

I just think with how heavy the stakes are I only so much care about the love story especially since there is a larger plot

Nah I feel you, I mean if some are just hoping for a mushy mushy romance story, cool for them but I feel like that’s a huge disservice to what Vince is probably tryna create.

In the same way I wouldn’t just write this show off as “rape culture” even tho I think there’s room for that commentary, I don’t just see it as just that. It’s a lot more complex and more dynamic than that.

Interesting theory

I wouldn't even call it a love story so much as it's a story about human connection. That's really what's at the root of the show so far.

Stanislaw Lem

Vince stole the idea from polish author....smh

Jfc it's more than just the Solaris book he took like mad ideas from Lem

Great show no doubt though

Eggnog flavored human milk

Wait what happen?

Never even thought about the hive already reading every book ever. And the thought of carol writing a new book meant a chance for them to experience new art

I mean the novels are a way to see what she is thinking or feeling too . I don’t imagine the vibe can truly get bored or need entertainment

Not really a matter of needing entertainment but they can still feel joy and excitement I would assume thats what they felt after reading Carol script

This show is pretty dumb

Fire episode

Feel like that episode had the most clues about plot points hidden throughout so far

What I be wondering is…. These “feelings” gotta be manufactured on purpose, cus no way in hell every single one of them LOVE her books, a lot of them think it’s trash but they not saying it

They kinda touched on that before, I guess because they're everyone all at once they have the capability to appreciate and enjoy any and everything

thx for posting cuz I would have never clicked on that with that s***ty ahh thumbnail. good vid

Bad thumbnails but great vids . I will probably listen to whole season apple podcast after finale

What was up with the train scene, was it part of the charm offensive? Are the joined getting over their inability to lie?