Does not matter if Carol asked directly or not because they will not say no to literally anything. Like I said before it’s like having s***with someone blackout drunk while sober. Sure they might initiate the sex, but is that really consent if they’re drunk out of their mind?

Like it’s definitely different . Can’t equate diabatte and carol entirely . Diabatte had an immediate harem

If the original soul is still present in the bodies then it’s even more sick and twisted

The hive started spreading thru forced tongue kissing also so they been rapey from the start.
Also is the hive having s***with itself to create more humans ?

Quite literally!!!

If a woman is blackout drunk and tries to kiss you while you are sober and you go with it and have sex, that is rape. Quite literally.

Same exact thing here.

The more sick part is Carol went from saying don’t use Helen’s memories to basically encouraging it because she misses her

Hive babies?

Nobody consented to getting kissed in the pilot so all this consent chatter is so stupid to me

She had a whole month of isolation when she thought she was good

She got f***ed up HEAVY mentally.

She begged for Z to come back and the rest of the hive.

see this is what i was focused on last episode

she’s just letting them use whatever info they have about her now. she’s too comfortable

I get what you are saying but how much of zoisia is in control or free will or how she has changed after the multiple near death concussion d***gings will be relevant here in future

Last episode legit felt like pick up artist manipulation. Total affectation

Carol got manipulated into having incestous pedophile s***

I think the whole consent convo is dependent on how a person is affected after they're unjoined.

If unjoined a person feels like their actions were completely out of their control vs if they're in control but when connected to the Hive their actions are skewed towards benefiting the hive like a bee

Exactly this . She went from f*** em when she was in a police car to recently married rolls Royce f***ing em

Swinging golf balls at windows to take out aggression to playing house , s***and cooking with zoisia . Playing card games or traditions she used to do with family in playing spit . Discussing her novel with excitement that Helen didn’t have .

Carol has morphed to their will unless Carol is doing this to infiltrate . She did learn more vital information than any other episode by being kind . She resisted the nostalgia of the coffee shop and was disturbed they brought the hostess from the life she was living to reenact a memory for her

Only for later in the episode reenact her love of Helen . There is hypocrisy in it but I want to see where they go next

Yeah I’m hoping the show explains it to be the latter, but so far we have no inclination whatsoever that the original person is in control in any way while consumed by the virus

carol couldnt stand being a NEET for a few weeks

First 5 minutes of episode is out too

It’s plurbin time

We see many of them cuddling while sleeping which I think is for frequency. I don’t think they are reproducing because more babies is more mouths to feed for the 10 years

When Carol frees Zosia from the influence of the Others and Zosia wants nothing to do with her <<<<<

tomorrow is festivus and final plurb for 2-3 years