Very strange discourse for real

I mean Carol represents some level of whiteness it’s impossible to deny lol . Again the show runs meta with wycaro. As well as the audience itself . White woman dating the body of Zoisia who grew up poor now going on trips with her body and living in luxury around the world . Yet only ask her about her ex and her favorite food as personal questions . That’s it . Carol Z shippers won in episode 8 in their mind but entirely lost in the finale .

Yes they make fan art and have been going in since episode 1 . They gas each other up and feel it is good representation. They could argue for the tension and conversion camp / living her dream. However in their hearts they know it’s forced cause it’s body snatching and she knows nothing of the real Z

Yes. The same people who will constantly argue the nuance of consent and applies rules to the male character all sudden makes excuses for the female character

“It can’t be rape cus the hive kissed her first”……lmaooo imagine believing you can’t “rape” someone as long as they kissed you first

That’s giving “it’s not rape if you’re married to them”

I can sorta understand being on the side of “no one is a rapist, it’s complicated yada yada” I don’t agree, but at least your statement is fair.

It’s very clear as day this is “the man is wrong cus he’s a man, the women is right cus she’s a woman, and she’s lesbian and we want our lesbian romance”

BUT BUT BUT here’s the kicker…

I seen a post stating “Yall wanna act like Walter white wasn’t a rapist when he raped his wife but now all sudden Carols a rapist???? Y’all hate women”

So no, they are very aware that you can rape your spouse even if married

Guys they just want engagement.

Yeah lots of biases on display here and i mean tbh we're in Carols pov mostnof the time so it makes sense that people would try to find a way to justify her actions, but then you think back about how shes the one who brought up the whole consent issues in the 2nd episode... All to forget about it entirely and basically doing the same stuff Diabates been doing all along ! I think its really interesting honestly and its sad that a lot of people just cant think about it critically whatsoever

Carol being a bad person is a good thing

Exactly i think it makes the show very layered and complex and it should bring forth healthy dialogue. But for some reason you have certain people who get very parasocial with these characters and make them their entire personality.

It’s still crazy to me how a show about hive mindset has created a hive of twitter folks with Zosia and Carol pfps lol

One thing ive noticed is that a lot of people still dont understand Zosia is not an actual person or even a character, it did take me a while to like wrap my head around how the hive works and i did feel like there was some signs of individuality in her at first which i think shows how great the writing was, it was so misleading. But sadly like you said some people just sound like they havent watched any of the last few episodes its strange

This show gave me a looooot to think about , such a breath of fresh air

The thing is they understand.

I seen someone arguing that “it’s not incest because the hive mind is a collection of everyone’s memories not their consciousness, the bodies are basically corpses that the mind took over, the actual children aren’t in these bodies”

And someone replied back “okay fair, but that means Carol and Diabate is having s***with corpses or bodies that the hive can’t give consent for…”

And they replied to that with “omg you’re impossible”

When like yeah thats exactly what theyre doing man its f***ed up and it makes the show that much more interesting

It does. Cus it’s not like ppl are saying “eww she’s a rapist I’m not watching this show!!!”

It’s more so wow that’s bold, this is f***ed up and complex and a lot of moving parts. Let’s see where else this goes.

Lol shippers are saying “like yeah i’m sure vince gilligan wrote this role for rhea seehorn just to make her a rapist.”

And to me it’s like why wouldn’t he? Is female characters incapable of being rapist? Y’all clearly state Vince wrote Walt as a rapist…….whats the difference

sooooo much than the leftovers

I think there is a specific reason that it changes to green screen when manusos holds her phone . Also think it’s of note her phone translating acts like the hive . Our hive is like our phone it listens

lmaooo

Respect for sticking to your opinion

Dog it says Pluribus on my nickel right now. This marketing campaign is NUTS

Get rid of it

That’s the meaning of the show we are all controlled by money

Better than ? To each their own but writing isn’t on leftovers yet comparing season 1s for me