Nort

3mo

nah, I dont own any fabfilter. I was hoping to grab pro-Q 3 soon.

Mark Moschino

3mo

audioz.download is a pretty cool website :)

Nort

3mo

I use the macbook my work provided me too scared to pirate plugins

nocomment

3mo

free IT support for any viruses then

Mark Moschino

3mo

audioz.download is a pretty cool website :)

nocomment

3mo

i prefer rutracker cause im not paying for those f***ing throttled file sharers

nocomment

3mo

Yeah ive def done that before with badly recorded vocals now that i think about it.

I wonder though if youre making the vocals too loud on the high end at this stage, if youre saying you think your vocals end up too harsh?

Windmaster

3mo

Yea i think ur probably right, its a bad habit ill see if i can find a different workflow

I did recently stop boosting high end with eq before running it thru autotune, i think it sounds a lot better now

Mark Moschino

3mo

my chain - i change it a lot but this is what im doin

1073 -> cl1b -> saturn (suuuuper light) -> la2a -> soothe (depends on the recording quality) -> hoffa iq eq (really good but i don’t see anyone using it) then pro-q with a lot of midside stuff

effects are up to the song, I like the ams reverb a lot, sometimes i do ocean way or capitol chambers, sometimes various plates. Chorus i use minimal audio flex chorus or uad brigade chorus on a send

this is assuming melodyne etc has already been applied to the vocal

Mark Moschino

3mo

i know u didn't ask for this advice, but i only boost as an absolute last resort - try cutting what you don't need and then turning the channel up instead. When you boost like that you're also boosting any imperfections/reflections of the recording, and it's easier to mitigate that with cuts and compression to get the intended result.

Think of boosting as essentially adding really small amounts of gain to those frequencies - Gain is essentially harmonic distortion deployed in very small amounts so when you're boosting like a bedroom recorded vocal - you're adding to really small amounts of distortion to your room tone and the reflections in the recording.

If you do want to boost the highs just add to the airband (20k) and never more than 3-6 db

But I always leave my eq as my absolute last thing in the chain

Windmaster

3mo

thanks yea i mean the sad part is i made so many songs with s***ty mixing, some of my best work probably coulda been way better if i knew what i am starting to learn now

but its whatever, jus gotta keep moving forward

Windmaster

3mo

saturn is a great idea too, i have it but i never used it on vocals

might need to run soothe 2

Mark Moschino

3mo

soothe 2 and gulfoss can save s***ty recordings honestly

havent used bloom from oek yet but it looks interesting to me

Windmaster

3mo

yea tbh i dropped my mic a few times so im thinking it might be giving me bad recordings, altho if it is its probably not so obvious that it would make a huge difference. the mic itself is like 300 dollars so i expect it to not be s***

Mark Moschino

3mo

you might have moves some parts tbh-dropping the most expensive mic in the world f***s it up too

Just look into it and honestly think about the way you're recording if it's in your bedroom consider getting some furniture pads and making a light vocal booth just so you're not dealing with so many reflections. Reflections are what'll kill your take faster than anything

Windmaster

3mo

Heres an example

https://vocaroo.com/133s43qsxnPA

I think the reflections u mentioned are rly killing me rn

Mark Moschino

3mo

reflections definitely playing a part i hear the room a lot.

Also it sounds like theres some boost in 2k and up . Idk if thats coming from an eq or a saturator or w/e but imo u don't really need it

if you have some furniture pads double them up and make a little booth. If you have some money to invest get a kaotica eyeball, or something that does the same thing

eyeball isn't a replacement for a studio tho unfortunately

Windmaster

3mo

That boost probably from the exciter, ive been thinking of removing it from the chain

Thanks for ur help fam, imma try to get a better recording set up kinda broke af rn

Mark Moschino

3mo

i was broke for a very long time until i wasnt - no judgement from me.

i don't know your vocal chain but i personally do not like exciters

Windmaster

2mo

Real

Mark Moschino

2mo

real talk f*** exciters, i feel like my mixes always sound worse