When the entire verses is songs like Mob Ties idk man

And a big thing I believe is, being in this generation we have access to these drake references but we don’t have the same access to the creative process of others

Nas had whole verses written by Jay Elec I’m not disqualifying him no matter what the case

dude would suck up an NY artist even if the nigga f***ed his mother

I also said niggas never wrote for wayne lmao

Yall see that?

Deflection from the topic at hand

Great.

Tell 2dicks that lol

so Drake is simultaneously one of the most valuable assets to his label and music industry in general but also the “higher powers” are all collectively plotting to end him

i never considered ye a rapper rapper, who would?

i dont got a 10. my love for music is too disparate for the list s***. i have favs thas it

I was a hot boy fan before i was a 50 fan what is your point?

This would be it for me imo

I get recording reference tracks for the most marketable songs that need mass appeal to keet quotas or whatever

But if i hear a ref track for any of his timestamps, tuscan leather feel no ways type tracks

Who?

drake does things to the brains of relatively normal people that needs to be studied

Isn’t a big part of Drake’s skill his ability to adapt his flow and cadence to so many different styles and sounds? How does finding out he’s using writers for that not affect his reputation?

If leakth.is was around in the 90s then who knows what we would’ve got

niggas dont even be listenin to who they put in they top 10 fr but claim it anyway

like nigga you do not listen to scarface like dat

wym? his backing vox are on the song thats why i said that haha

reeses reeses dont be reeeeediclus is like. 100% pure PND, nobody else does s*** like that. as a fan of both of them i was not surprised at all that pnd wrote most of this song

i dont rly care if someone is helping drake write his r&b songs, i def understand the issue with something like mob ties where he also said he wrote it after he was mad at the pusha situation

but i think its just a philosophical divide, some people care and its rule number 1 for them, others dont care at all. people are never gonna agree about the importance of writers in the studio and at most its just a point for them to use against whatever artist they wanna argue against

Wtf yall yapping about on Nasir name, stfu on Nasir who are you??!!!???

Exactly. If Drake wants to use writers, that’s cool.

But you can’t simultaneously use writers and call yourself one of the best writers/lyricists of all time

Check out no Sundays on we still don't trust you

i personally dont care about nas

but that nigga puttin s*** on nas jacket fr talkin bout jay elec wrote it

This is where the whole versatile argument is shaky to me. Not saying he doesn't do the pop songs well, he does, but...it's just funny

That nigga yapping, leave a mad man be, that's Nasir, you gotta realize there are sick people itt, it's Nas, the greatest rapper of all time, Nasir, talmbout Jay elect, it's Nas

That’s part of the whole idea behind arguing that people like Ye and Drake should be welcome in the conversation tho

They’re who people actually listen to. No one cares about the help or “they’re not rapper rappers”

To more casual listeners, the idea of them not being top 10-20 and putting people like Scarface over them just because he wrote his stuff would be crazy

And I’m starting to come around and see validity in that. It’s hard to argue Scarface over Kanye and Drake. And same for a lot of “goats”

i dont care if niggas have their s*** written for them fr

i care when you lie and hide behind the s*** like you did

Hes never called himself a best writer or lyricist.Just the best period which is fine.