ThomFork

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I hate to say this, but I actually think Frank is expecting at least some of his fans to go broke trying to get this stuff because he's left them so desperate.

And i think the worst part is that a lot of Frank fans are in too deep to snap out of it and may end up doing just that

eye contact

5y

I understand that artists don’t inherently owe their fan base anything but this man literally scammed thousands of people to fund a vision that none of those people could access

What the f***? What the f*** can we do ? We can’t support this

Bourbon Ben

5y

apparently u already supported itby sending him money

SHAQUILLE

5y

We keeping it music cause we’re fans. Stans are a different breed

eye contact

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This man literally funded his venture off of money he received from fans who purchased expensive merchandise that he still hasn’t shipped It’s so disgusting talking about how you read luxury magazines seeing things you couldn’t afford and talking down on that condition, only to open a firm that literally pursues the same business point of artificial pricing. You couldn’t even address the trouble you’ve caused your fan base but instead talk about how you only don’t own a yacht because you get seasick.

There’s absolutely no regard for the people who came and gave you this platform of acclaim

His journey into what he calls “hard goods” began with a stint of bohemian DIY in LA in 2019, when he moved a group of 20 craftsmen friends into his house for his “Summit”, a secretive collective dedicated to developing designs. The house was virtually empty, surrounded by an expanse of land. Ocean’s concept was to use the time for experimentation: “We had everyone from horticulturalists to electrical engineers and architects, carpenters and metalworkers. We made tables and chairs, wired the lighting, then started working on other things for the house.”

This entire artistic process seems to be a delusional and frivolous exercise in materialism that’s only furthered by the fact that he totally jipped his extremely dedicated fan base on things that they bought from him

And the entire artificial expensiveness of this HOMER s*** is even more disgusting. How do you do this stuff knowing your audience will not be those who came to you when you released nostalgia ULTRA or Channel ORANGE but rather rich snobs who have nothing better to spend their money on than lab grown diamonds.

It’s like there’s a level of greed being satiated in this business move and not an artistic desire. The pieces aren’t even anything worth writing home about and are a total derivative of KAWS and Murikami and Nigo’s work

Vile

5y

It's ok to like Frank Ocean and admire him following his passions, but also realize not everything he does is great/good, just sayin' (see also: Kanye)

ThomFork

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I hate to say this, but I actually think Frank is expecting at least some of his fans to go broke trying to get this stuff because he's left them so desperate.

And i think the worst part is that a lot of Frank fans are in too deep to snap out of it and may end up doing just that

Brodie Wav

5y

Never thought I’d see the day where fans turn Frank Ocean heel

MM6 Moka

5y

Are you tryna float that the merch wasn’t priced for profit

mr get dough

5y

Or maybe there’s a market for what he’s making outside of his casual fanbase

BD32

5y

All that's missing now is Lorde f***ing up and that'll be the suburban teen fan trifecta of Lana, Frank, and Lorde looking funny

CLB Harmonium

5y

HOLDUP SOMEONE ANSWER:

How did Frank use the people’s merch money (2020) when he’s been working on this since 2018?

Cut this bullshit narrative. Y’all think those 20Ms from Apple and songwriting cheques weren’t enough?

fmvp yzy vert

5y

No I’m asking if it’s been revealed that the money he made from the merch is what funded this venture

I could make the assumption that the merch was unprofitable hence they didn’t ship anything out and the money is with the distributors/whoever

Another hypothetical could be he got a small cut of the merch profit. And found the funding elsewhere

Or a different hypothetical similar to op could be that he made so much money scamming people that this is one of many ventures to come

mr get dough

5y

Or maybe there’s a market for what he’s making outside of his casual fanbase