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  • Water Giver πŸ’§
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    Oct 22, 2025
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    Oblivion X

    Feel like it could of benefited from a tighter listening experience but overall pretty impressive

    I don't necessarily disagree

    I had to go thru basically my own writers camp and figure it all out

    The songs in the beginning of the creation were way more loose and still trying to find my footing fully - the songs You Used To, No More Traffic & In My Dreams that were the very first made tracks

    Then I learned how to make "proper" songs through the process and some advice from irl music friends - where you get the songs Feel What's Real, To Your Neighbor, I'm A Dog and A New Light

    Then the other songs are like a mix of the two of the more "loose" experimental phase and the "proper" phase

    I've always wrote random lil lyrics but I never made full songs besides a few Rap songs when I was teen - but now I have a style, template and gauged what works plus a finished set up that now I can write real choruses and structures while still having twists on them that work in the electronic/dance scenes!

    And with the set up, style and template figured out and hammered out during the creation of TFIF the next project will go much smoother πŸ₯³

  • Water Giver πŸ’§
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    Oct 22, 2025
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    Oblivion X

    Switch up in feel whats real

    Thank you! One of my fav moments too!

    That switch break + the 2nd interlude the brassy one and some of New Light is also me dipping back into and giving respect to my HipHop/Rap roots

    No samples, premade loops, beat sites nor AI was used neither for Feel What's Real + THE REST of the other 13 tracks! Digital and also a***og sounds all original from me - sound design and og production is my original background 😈

    Thank u for listening to the whole thing and especially for dropping by in the thread to say sumn, I really appreciate the looks and attention

  • Water Giver πŸ’§
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    Oct 23, 2025
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    NEW PAGE links repost! AGAIN


    • The Future is Forever (ALBUM) πŸ’½

    OUT NOW πŸ’§

    SPOTIFY:
    open.spotify.com/album/7eH1J0Yn2HaiyoPNCYP1DO

    APPLE MUSIC:
    music.apple.com/us/album/the-future-is-forever/1846665880

    BANDCAMP Regular Album Version (WAV DOWNLOADS, Free/Pay What You Want):
    denzelwaters.bandcamp.com/album/the-future-is-forever

    BANDCAMP Instrumental Album Version (WAV DOWNLOAD, Free/Pay What You Want):
    denzelwaters.bandcamp.com/album/the-future-is-forever-instrumental-version

    TIDAL:
    tidal.com/album/467427915

    • YOUTUBE:

    πŸ•ŠοΈ IN ORDER ALBUM TRACKS PLAYLIST: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXlO5QCX__bTF8HwLQC58F-kCXRJr250J

    MAIN GENRES: ELECTRONIC, DANCE, RNB πŸ•ŠοΈ

  • Water Giver πŸ’§
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    Oct 23, 2025

    One of my fav and ego inflating things is when someone online or irl asks me "or what sample is that on such such??!"

    And then I can go "It's not a sample, there aren't any samples or premade loops on any of the album songs 😏😈"

    Means a lot to me as production is my original background before engineering or writing/singing

  • Oct 23, 2025
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    Water Giver

    I don't necessarily disagree

    I had to go thru basically my own writers camp and figure it all out

    The songs in the beginning of the creation were way more loose and still trying to find my footing fully - the songs You Used To, No More Traffic & In My Dreams that were the very first made tracks

    Then I learned how to make "proper" songs through the process and some advice from irl music friends - where you get the songs Feel What's Real, To Your Neighbor, I'm A Dog and A New Light

    Then the other songs are like a mix of the two of the more "loose" experimental phase and the "proper" phase

    I've always wrote random lil lyrics but I never made full songs besides a few Rap songs when I was teen - but now I have a style, template and gauged what works plus a finished set up that now I can write real choruses and structures while still having twists on them that work in the electronic/dance scenes!

    And with the set up, style and template figured out and hammered out during the creation of TFIF the next project will go much smoother πŸ₯³

    Feel whats real and new light probably my favorite songs yeah I can see the improvement forsure. As a first project you got yourself a nice foundation to build on especially production wise

  • Oct 23, 2025
    Water Giver

    Thank you! One of my fav moments too!

    That switch break + the 2nd interlude the brassy one and some of New Light is also me dipping back into and giving respect to my HipHop/Rap roots

    No samples, premade loops, beat sites nor AI was used neither for Feel What's Real + THE REST of the other 13 tracks! Digital and also a***og sounds all original from me - sound design and og production is my original background 😈

    Thank u for listening to the whole thing and especially for dropping by in the thread to say sumn, I really appreciate the looks and attention

    ofc

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    #listening

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    This s*** is fire

  • Jbreezyondeck 🌬️
    Oct 23, 2025
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    Water Giver

    Thank you family

    And don't TRIP! Ppl will get to it when they can I'm not one of them ppl that get mad that don't get an instant reply or instant "album repost" etc. lmao, I'm just happy for the attention when given and especially since its just the beginning

    Also I appreciate it brother, ty so much and of all the month, damn near over a year with my, behind the scenes demoing thread with all the support and encouragement πŸ₯Ή

    Once u, @Aquilla & @mos_def kept replying and checking stuff out in my other thread I told y'all I had to def come with sumn now or else it wouldn't be right to the 3 of y'all lmao, and more is def coming πŸ—£οΈπŸ€³

    We always support ours on here we all we got

  • Water Giver πŸ’§
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    Oct 23, 2025
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    CGI Dog

    #listening

    Let me know what u think when u got a chance!

  • Water Giver πŸ’§
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    Oct 23, 2025
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    Jetpack

    This s*** is fire

    I appreciate it n the look, I'm glad you enjoyed it

  • Water Giver πŸ’§
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    Oct 23, 2025
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    Oblivion X

    Feel whats real and new light probably my favorite songs yeah I can see the improvement forsure. As a first project you got yourself a nice foundation to build on especially production wise

    Those are the top songs on every platform they're top 5 to 2 on everything and highly playlisted - def found a lil formula

    Ty so much πŸ™Œ

  • Water Giver πŸ’§
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    Oct 23, 2025
    Water Giver

    Those are the top songs on every platform they're top 5 to 2 on everything and highly playlisted - def found a lil formula

    Ty so much πŸ™Œ

    Speaking of the top songs, tomorrow I plan to post popularity stat rankings of listens n playlisted songs for the first week listen of the WINNERS πŸ‘‘ and LOSERS πŸ’€ of the album songs averaged out across all major platforms!

    I think it'll be fun and just good insight πŸ—£οΈπŸ€³

  • Water Giver πŸ’§
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    Oct 23, 2025

    Also here are our first round of FUN FACTS for the album! Those that have been around the thread since the Singles were dropping will be familiar with this yapping segment I do posts throughout the thread of


    1ST Fun Fact, about things that were left on the cutting room floor of TFIF sessions:

    • 1 full song (titled Call It Danger) that was cut that I didn't think fit and I didn't like how "poppy" it felt
    • 1 alt song version (You Get Old, different beat but same structure and vocals), which the 2nd version, the final version, made the final album
    • 1 half made song i couldn't think how to finish (titled Please Don't Shoot, might revisit in the future)
    • 1 song demo with random vocal n lyrics ideas that didn't go far - it's beat is vaulted for now
    • 2 beats that weren't used at all, one of them given to a friend at this point

    2ND Fun Fact, about song creations throughout the album process:

    • I've mentioned it a bit before, but You Used To and No more Traffic was the first two songs made for the project and after those were made I decided to go fully with my personal project idea, then I made In My Dreams as the 3rd song right after which then I got the feel for the production to do

    • the final 3 songs were Feel What's Real, To Your Neighbor and 2nd final version of You Get Old - To Your Neighbor also originally didn't have a second verse, it had a refrain in place of it, but I then changed it because I wanted another full "traditional" structure song for the album and I think it was for the better

    • the EASIEST song to make was No More Traffic, the HARDEST song to make was To Your Neighbor (the mixing of all the layered n more "maximalist" sounds to go with the vocals was annoyingly difficult but it worked it the end), the FUNNEST song to make was Come On Over, the LEAST FUN to make song was You Get Old (I almost cut the song before I made the final beat version, the OG beat and it's mixing I wasn't happy for the longest time but I loved the lyrics, vocals and concept of the song - I'm glad it worked out in the end and that it's also popular)


    That's all for today's fun facts

  • Water Giver πŸ’§
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    Oct 23, 2025
    Jbreezyondeck

    We always support ours on here we all we got

    Major FAXX πŸ—οΈ πŸ—οΈ

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    I fw how it feels like you're just making music

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    No More Traffic just doing your thing

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    Water Giver

    Let me know what u think when u got a chance!

    i liked it a lot! super fun

    the only thing IMO is I find it too bassy but that's personal preference i guess

    ID theft me came on and I was like hold on this sounds familiar and then it hit me that I'd heard it before lol

    is that your vocals throughout the album? idk what your doing with your voice like mixing etc but I really like it sounds futuristic as hell lol

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    some of the synths are ever so slightly microtonal (?) at times and it really adds to the atmosphere

  • Water Giver πŸ’§
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    Oct 24, 2025
    CGI Dog

    i liked it a lot! super fun

    the only thing IMO is I find it too bassy but that's personal preference i guess

    ID theft me came on and I was like hold on this sounds familiar and then it hit me that I'd heard it before lol

    is that your vocals throughout the album? idk what your doing with your voice like mixing etc but I really like it sounds futuristic as hell lol

    I'm glad you enjoyed it and thank u for listening! N I think u were itt for when I released IDTM few months back as a single, u mentioned it reminded you of kraftwerk a lil bit of im not mistaken

    And yesss those are all my vocals - literally the only parts that aren't me is the woman gasp sound in the first interlude that's, a vox sound in a random vst - and the "alright now" vocals are from a Club DJ voicelines beat kit. Everything else is me, including the "don't ask another question" voice on No More Traffic, I samples my own voice and degraded it then used a lot of mixing techniques that 90s/2000s UK Garage would do to vocals but with my own twist

  • Water Giver πŸ’§
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    CGI Dog

    some of the synths are ever so slightly microtonal (?) at times and it really adds to the atmosphere

    Yup that is in there, that's dope you picked that up! I go all over the scale and "in-between" scale and tones, especially for little breaks and transitions such as the short one in the Intro right before my main vocals come in - I'll resample myself to "get more" notes out of it again ever so and play with pitches and such, an other example is the intro to You Get Old iirc

    There's a bunch of techniques like how I use polyrhythms at the end of the 1st interlude

    I also mixed together digital and a***og synths and also layer them with a lot that gives slight variations of keys and such from me playing them and drawing them in

    My main idea is to keep a main groove and theme of a track for the album but then I'm shifting it and making many alt versions of the same throughout to expand upon the track and to keep it interesting for the listener - so there's tons of little techniques and "shadow notes" and little ear candy going on every two to 4 bars on average

    A lot of the personal mantra when creating the project was "make something familiar, but different, make something standard, but in a unique way" if that makes sense, and another part of the concept of the album n sound was like mixing techniques and sounds of the old and the modern plus my own twist that is "the future"

  • Water Giver πŸ’§
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    Oct 24, 2025
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    @fka_sebastien

    Also forgot to mention in the other comment, I appreciate the compliment on my tone mixing for my vocals! It was tough because my own actual voice is odd, you can hear my voice at its driest in Feel What's Real intro and the talking info for the Album Preview video deep down in op. I have a "weird" kinda unique voice because I have some damaged vocal chords from a surgery I had as a baby that was collateral damaged and I had to learn how to push out air to talk a different way, so I had to create a mixing style that suited it.

    And once I got the basic down for my texture of voice, I then added to it depending on the track of just creative artistic liberties for the overall vision of the project. And I wanted every song from the beats to the vocals to have its own feel, but then I would bring commonality to it in the mastering phase with them all getting slight variations of the same mastering chain and techniques.

    I apologize if the yapping was too much πŸ« πŸ˜‚

  • Water Giver πŸ’§
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    Oct 24, 2025
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    Classique

    I fw how it feels like you're just making music

    Ty lmao I wanted the album to have this "casual" feel while having sumn more "complex" n "deeper" there if u want to look a bit deeper.

    My idea of music creating in general as an artist rn is "make music that is of substance but still fun and interesting, and make music that is somewhat familiar but also sumn different and sort of unique"

    Also for about a quarter to half of the album's creation I was really just flying by the seat of my ass lmao figuring it all out, so this is also true even to a degree unintentional πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ’€

    Another general idea before I fully fleshed everything to keep my mind on the sound of the album was also to make a Love Letter to many many electronic and dance genres then find a way to combine them with my own spin - so I was also just making music of combining things I loved in a way that felt cohesive and also like my own style

  • Water Giver πŸ’§
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    Oct 24, 2025
    Classique

    No More Traffic just doing your thing

    This was the 2nd song made, I DEF was just doing whatever at that point πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

    The only real idea I had for the song is that "I wanted a song that could maybe fit a cookout and/or family function setting"

  • Water Giver πŸ’§
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    Oct 24, 2025
    Water Giver

    @fka_sebastien

    Also forgot to mention in the other comment, I appreciate the compliment on my tone mixing for my vocals! It was tough because my own actual voice is odd, you can hear my voice at its driest in Feel What's Real intro and the talking info for the Album Preview video deep down in op. I have a "weird" kinda unique voice because I have some damaged vocal chords from a surgery I had as a baby that was collateral damaged and I had to learn how to push out air to talk a different way, so I had to create a mixing style that suited it.

    And once I got the basic down for my texture of voice, I then added to it depending on the track of just creative artistic liberties for the overall vision of the project. And I wanted every song from the beats to the vocals to have its own feel, but then I would bring commonality to it in the mastering phase with them all getting slight variations of the same mastering chain and techniques.

    I apologize if the yapping was too much πŸ« πŸ˜‚

    My mixing n mastering goal too overall for every song is that I really wanted to keep the dynamics of the overall sound of the track and instruments and use the frequency - so this is part of why my voice I mixed it more like "an instrument" too where it's moreso on the same "plane" as all the sounds going on, I wanted it blended but not be buried or muffled and I think I achieved that! I also have a pet peeve of vocals that WAY overtake the track and is TOO upfront personally, I mix general clients with the idea of having vocals as the focal point (unless stated otherwise) as most usually want it like that, but I will never make the vocals overtake the entire song and where you only hear like the vocalist and the snare and all the other instruments n things sound like their playing out of earbuds or sumn I f***ing hate that mixing style πŸ’€

    I guess this is another FUN FACT already

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