you don't find it funny that you pressed me for saying the same thing

and then you went and did it

lmao

Nigga I ain't tryna eat no salt and butter soup that might have cheese in it to "spice" it up

Yeah apparently its a carolina thing my grandma been making it for me since i was a kid

Won’t quote to shame but “What’s soul food” has to be the whitest comment I’ve ever seen

I don't have room to speak on soul food but I find a lot of food that was culminated from scraps is really cost effective.

Most cultures that have gone through famine try to maximize resources, stretch out food as long as possible and not waste anything.

This leads to lower overall cost.

I make my own broths from end cuts of vegetables I had from over the week. It may be associated with another's scraps, but! It's very cost effective and much less wasteful then throwing them away.

I think a lot of cooking ideology and what would be considered "soul food" or "hearty" stems from maximizing resources in scarcity.

why the f*** would anyone stop eating oxtail and cornbread

appreciate your mindfulness

no reason people can't learn in here nahmean

oxtail is top 1 meats

businessfightspoverty.org/accessibility-and-affordability-of-healthy-foods-for-all

Currently, around 26% of the global population experiences moderate to severe levels of food insecurity and lacks regular access to nutritious and healthy food. Vegetables, fruits, and nuts that are high in essential nutrients are often less affordable, especially in developing countries.

You ever wonder why it's a coincidence that every market or bodega store in the hood/ghetto has very few healthy alternatives for meats (if any at all) and you gotta go to the "bougie" side of town or affluent neighborhoods to find those health food stores that have a (usually 2-3 dollar more expensive) grass fed beef?

You don't think that plays a part in niggas eating soul food?

I was "shaming" you because you've basically been saying that black people need to move away from our foods almost because it's "unbecoming" despite literally every other country eating the same exact s***.

Me saying grits are disgusting is literally just that. I personally find them gross. On top of that I ain't ever hear about other cultures of people eating grits.

As always, we look at another black issue and instead of aiming at the source of the problem, we....somehow just think pointing at the problem itself is gonna solve the issue lol.

of course i believe that plays a part

it is by design

which is another reason why i don't understand why we willfully eat these foods for our celebratory moments

if this is what we can afford
and if this is what's available to us

fine, let's attack the issue from that angle

but as evidenced by this thread

there are plenty of people who eat it just because they like it

and both of those are problematic in the long run

imo

i think you are projecting honestly

i haven't once said what you keep saying that i said

lol

but those people that like it were also raised on it within an environment that...let's be real, their folks could afford this over "impossible burger" or some fried tofu bro.

That's what I'm saying you gotta attack it from the source before it gets to the point where we just grew up on it so we love it.

I don't think it's anything problematic about people that just like what they grew up on. And as we get older, most of us in this generation know what it means to eat the stuff in moderation.

i'm in agreement with you

and that's why i posed the question in the first place

because at some point it's going to take a generation to stand up and change things

if we ever want to move forward

your point about the availability and affordability of healthier options is extremely valid

and i believe it will take a cultural shift to go along with it

most of us have never lived any other way

and so seeing people doing it will be important

can you agree with that?

I can agree with that. But the cultural shift comes with the economic shift.

The generation is the ones that decide to mandate community gardens in places with less access to those "bougie" supermarkets that have healthy alternatives.

It comes with you instead of asking "we ever gon' stop eating soul food?" is asking "Will Whole Foods lower they f***ing price for their vegetables which would inevitably reign in more profit cause more people could come and shop there?"

If the supermarkets and corporations don't change, then our eating habits can't change. If neighborhoods that are food deserts don't start having markets built within it, then our eating habits can't change. Remember, we're talking about food. Something that no human can't live without it.

The reason you're being called "new black" and stuff is because there's a very victim blamey like tone in your question.

In this case, you can't have one without the other.

i'm adding this to OP
i appreciate your thoughts

my only reservation is that

you are the only person to present
this type of stance thus far

and that concerns me

and it's why i think these discussions are important now

because i believe that the culture shift must come before the economical shift

I at one point volunteered at this community garden in the middle of a food desert. All the food was free to people who were in that community.

The goal was the have kids from after school programs come to work on it. They were going educate the kids on the healthy foods, send the kids home with the foods from the garden and recipes with it.

I really need to go back and help out.

But the point is, I think initiatives like that can do do a lot long term.

I think a lot of parents are stagnated in their ways, the change really has to be generational in a lot of circumstances

I mean you unintentionally attacked people's way of living. You kinda asking for niggas to come at you.

I'm just a vegan that ain't stupid and understand it's really a privilege to even say "I don't eat meat, or have to" just because I was blessed to be raised by a parent that deliberately made the choice to stop doing it himself in college (and pops was raised in the chitlin and hog head cheese era)

Grits with a lil sugar is good

changed the title

When my mother got sick the doctor told her she had to change her diet and couldn’t eat certain thing it was difficult. Instead of buying the same stuff we use to buy we had to pay for healthy alternatives and they weren’t cheap. Luckily we were in the position to purchase that stuff but a lot of black families can’t afford that. Some households you can’t be picky you either eat something that’s high in sodium or you starve.

glad you all were able to make the adjustment(s)

what about you?

did that situation make you want to change your diet too?