forgot i made this thread but we all joked about it for like an hour with side remarks of how f***ed up it is
yes my dad is still alive
we're from "liberal" bayarea CA home of black panthers etc. my dad is also borne there and where he got tagged
i knew "negro" was an actual term but i didnt know "NEGROID" was ever used in official capacity
To be fair black was always a dumbass term. We aren't really black. Nor should people be categorized by their skintone. Is a Arab Berber a "white" person? Are white people really "white"? They're more pink if anything.
The media stereotype of a Japanese person is more white than a "white" person. Are Aboriginals black people? Why are we called black when we aren't even black and a lot of black people can be light skin tone wise and still fully African.
In short race is a stupid concept which exists solely for the purpose of exclusion and oppressing people. Ethnicity is what is meaningful
True, BUT
How do you reconcile that last sentence with this
True, BUT
How do you reconcile that last sentence with this
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWvWDu6IAyY
Classic song, he got me
Nah but in all seriousness, the world don't work like that imo. The capitalist kumbaya approach is naive and ignores reality. Easy for those in the majority to say "I'm colorblind dude lolol"
Did they used to write mongoloid and caucasoid race on other birth certifications though? If so then I don’t see the problem
idk but it doesnt matter - its a literal racist terminology and erasure of African ancestory is the issue and phrenology classification still being used in the 60s that was considered outdated even by the 60s which people are still very much alive from that era which means there is people still walking around with phrenology ideas - and negoird originally meant Ethiopian until they made black Americans a pot of everlasting and encompassing blacks with no distinction
heres a simple wiki article summary: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negroid
so in short they were taggong my father with "nazi-ism" phrenology that was already outdated
and my mother is from the early 70s (im black and white in short - my mother is italian and irish while her grandmother was an immigrant from ireland that smuggled her siblings out to america in the iirc one of the wars and famines with the uk - and her dad is an Italian classic american immigrant iirc) but she does not have any mention at all of any catalog - so perhaps the 70s is when it stopped but i doubt it because things of that nature didnt really change until the 80s and 90s
And did they lie?
negroid is not real and was already outdated by then which is the funny part
i was asked if i was negroid by an old german grandma once, s*** was crazy
not surprised, thats the phrenology homebase and her being old it was probably taught to her as normal
thats hilarious to straight up get asked that tho
if any of you have an older black family try to see their birth certificate to see if it was a normal thing or if my dad was borne a victim in a wild ass hospital that probably measured his skull and s***
i wonder what they said about my grandmother on my dads side
she is exactly half native american and black, cherokee which is the most common tribe in the bayarea of CA
did they catalog her as "Skin with Red" perhaps?
the way woke culture is going, 60 years from now - seeing the word 'black' as a race will be a no no orthe words Male and female
Times a funny b****
Are you f***ing stupid?
Black was already a term in the 60s
Negroid is an outdated built term literally on racist thinking called Phrenology that is not even American in origin
Conservatives got so much to say but know nothing you f***ing dumbass
And if it was so normal - it only proves that ideology is still well alive today which hopefully i dont have to hold your hand on why that has worrying implications
And no - certificates do not catalog your race anymore. At least mine doesnt but i am also mixed, my mother's doesnt who is from the 70s but she is also white.
So there is only one through line so far. Which is why Ive asked others to see theres if possible. Because it can also be just a black racist thing, or (hopefully) a regional difference where maybe not all certifications follow the same phrasing and my father's just happen to be in a more racist region/hospital that still uses those outdated (again even for the time) literal German created f***ed up Phrenology terms & implication.
Know before you speak.
Back in the days they used to call Afro-Asians Negroid Mongoloids
Thats wild lmfao i didnt know that but tbh i know very little of Asian-American history
but i know there is a lot people used to say, but its a different story or at least funny to see it go further in actual official usage
if any of you have an older black family try to see their birth certificate to see if it was a normal thing or if my dad was borne a victim in a wild ass hospital that probably measured his skull and s***
If you have a white family member from the 70s/60s see if it says "Caucasoid" as the other user suggested posts itt about it please
I would like to know my father isnt the only one in a Phrenology ledger somewhere lol
What does that even mean…? I’d like to believe it means or treat them better but somehow I doubt it
negro and negroid is not the same thing at all nor is it even part of the same root nor is it a "group of negros" or something like that
i have not heard literal negroid used at all thus why its a surprised
but yes i have, its hilarious and wild
negro is also originally spanish - negorid is not and is invented in Germany in Phrenology race and body theory that exaggerated and way overblown a old ass Greek (or roman, i always confuse the two) race theory thought experiment
negroid isnt even in my autocorrection while negro is this is how non-normal it is or at least is presented
What does that even mean…? I’d like to believe it means or treat them better but somehow I doubt it
yeah lmao idk and negro and negoid are not the same nor from the same root as i just explained above