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  • May 28, 2022

    "roddy richh fell off
    trippie redd fell of"
    roddy just had one album that wasnt great and trippie put out one of his best last year lmao

  • May 28, 2022
    Water Giver
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    2017 forward to today, the gen after the Cole, Drake, Kendrick, Uzi, Travis, Future, Young Thug etc. era.

    Juice Wrld dead, Xxxtentacion dead, Pop Smoke dead, King Von dead, Lil Peep dead, Drakeo the Ruler dead, YNW Melly jail, RondaNumbaNine jail, Pooh Shiesty jail, Tay K jail, Rod Wave arrested might go to jail, 03 Greedo jail, Valee basically retired to do sculpting, Sheck Wes basically retired to do basketball, 6ix9ine fell off, Cordae fell off, Trippie Redd fell off, Roddy Ricch fell off, DaBaby seems to be falling off etc.

    Almost everyone has died, arrested/jailed, quit or fell off. Dying being the biggest then jailing being the second biggest.

    On top of that, Covid happened. So a lot of projects, opportunities, tours, signings, hype, buzz, collabs etc. for newer artists fell flat.

    These Artists falling in unfortunate circumstances plus Covid made us skip a generation & extended the prior generation's run/era even further. Im of course talking mainstream & major underground, & of course not everyone is gone. Most, especially the big players & leaders are tho.

    The big Artists of the next gen, which should be now, are all gone. I dont think people really realize how big of a deal that is & the ramifications. How bad it altered the genre's timeline. It takes 2 to 4 years for a Rapper to pop or at the very least get realitively relevant. The Artists that already put in that work to pop in the next era, are now gone. That means the next crop of artists that was/are/were suppose to come after the Xxx, Juice, Pop era are still "training".

    • And their impact & influence does not exist/extend as much as it should/would due to early untimely deaths & jailings, meaning the next-next gen doesnt have an "elder" to gain from either as much. Unlike how Drake, Kendrick & Cole had Kanye, Lil Wayne & 50 Cent to look at & build off from. So repetition of already styles & concepts are more likely to happen for that era, instead of evolving. Thats just my own speculation tho, time will really tell.

    Regardless, there is no stop-gap. We skipped a whole gen + sound & have to wait for the next-next gen to stop by without anything here in the meantime.

    I believe this is why the previous gen Artists I mentioned above in the beginning are still so dominate. The people to past the baton too got injured, with only a very few survivors left like Baby Keem, & the next crop slowly happening like Yeat. So the vets are "holding it down" for the time being.

    Its terrible. This has never happened in any genre I dont think, even in Rap beforehand. Closes example are the 2Pac & Biggie deaths, & imo we're lucky the Rap genre of today didnt crash. Niggas died & went to jail bro. We're talking dozens & dozens. And many of them were huge, or uprising to be huge. A lot of people did support & we're rooting for them.

    Wether you liked those artists or not (looking at you, fellow bitter old niggas), its an unprecedented scenario. Its a sad timeline.

    No other genre has to deal with this. Within 3 to 5 years we lost a whole class, a whole era. Literally the whole now generation & the next movement.

    And we wonder why the genre feels slow, or that there is not too many new faces at the moment...

    Good points but I would have to disagree with trippie redd and Roddy falling off. Roddy maybe a bit but I believe he can get the people’s favor back. And didn’t trippie just drop miss the rage? lol

  • May 28, 2022
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    lil ufo

    hiphop needs to heal man, change the lean for some tea or whatev

    Not happening

  • lil ufo 🛸
    May 28, 2022
    Ooo

    Not happening

    yeah

  • Tubig 🌊
    May 28, 2022
    BlueDream

    I've been hoping hip hop can move away from the d*** era for a while.
    Lean is shortening the life span of so many young artists .
    Same with the violence

    We need a positivity movement for sure.

    Chance dropped the ball on that one

  • May 28, 2022
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    lil ufo

    hiphop needs to heal man, change the lean for some tea or whatev

    Making Arizona Tea the cool thing in Hip hop instead of lean is a smart idea

  • lil ufo 🛸
    May 28, 2022
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    BrunsonEggNCheese

    Making Arizona Tea the cool thing in Hip hop instead of lean is a smart idea

    this idea was brought to you by yung lean

  • lil ufo

    this idea was brought to you by yung lean

  • May 28, 2022

    It’s over

  • May 28, 2022
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    I agree with your overall point but Trippie is literally the definition of consistency. He just had one of his biggest eras.

  • bmass 🇵🇭
    May 28, 2022
    Plankton

    I agree with your overall point but Trippie is literally the definition of consistency. He just had one of his biggest eras.

  • May 28, 2022

    op had a few missteps with Trippie (very consistent, huge stat) but overall if you don’t agree with the sentiment you might’ve been under a rock or too old to understand

  • BrunsonEggNCheese

    Making Arizona Tea the cool thing in Hip hop instead of lean is a smart idea

    We already had the Arizona phase in 2011

  • Nov 6, 2022

    deep

  • proper 🔩
    Nov 6, 2022
    lil ufo

    hiphop needs to heal man, change the lean for some tea or whatev

    larry june only raps about healthy smoothies and organic fruits and veggies and daily excercise

  • Rap ate itself

  • May 7, 2023
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    @op how do ppl like yeat and destroylonely fit into this

  • May 7, 2023

    This was a great read. And it sadly ties into hiphop at the top becoming so negative

  • May 8, 2023

    op definitely has a point although there are many other reasons things feel the way they do along with this one

  • May 8, 2023
    sniper

    @op how do ppl like yeat and destroylonely fit into this

    he literally mentioned yeat in the post bro lol

  • May 8, 2023

    Op put something I’ve been sad about for a while now into words really nicely, thank you Op

  • May 8, 2023

    OP explained this better than I’ve seen others explain it, succinctly done. I think we’re stuck with flash in the pan NY drill artists and Carti clones for a term, unfortunately.

  • May 8, 2023

    I was just thinking about this right now

  • May 8, 2023

    It's super f***ing sad man. Great post