That hasnt existed for decades if ever. Older people dont even know what views is lol

Icenan itself is proof that monoculture in any realistic sense still exists

Monoculture has decreased in relevance but its not dead

By definition a monoculture is a shared set of values or ideas or concepts WITHIN a culture

The only thing thats changed is theres been a fragmentation and stratification of cultures

2slimey within his culture IS monoculture

Only recently has a global monoculture existed (which i think was @americana point but i dont think that was super clear) but that culture also hasnt disappeared it just shifted to new concepts ideas etc

Sybau

Appointment tv

Now u mad cus u got the reading comprehension of a rat and its overloading your sparse neural circuits

Btw youll never get me to be scared to share my opinion so u might as well block me

“People liking popular stuff” isn’t monoculture and also isn’t unique to any social group so that’s not really the same as unifying events

It’s not simply people “using different apps” if that’s what you think the fragmentation of social groups as a consequence of constantly evolving as and splintering social/consumption methods

It’s not even that anime exclusive

There’s a reason why artists like The Beatles, MJ, Prince, Elvis were at the peak of their fame and mythologized so much within pop culture partly because they existed largely within a pre-Internet, pre-Television era, and even Michaels era with television was again highly controlled conglomerates

There’s a clear trend even looking at artists a tier below in fame but blew up in more recent times like Beyoncé, and then even later like Drake/Taylor Swift

It’s clear over time that it’s very hard if not impossible to replicate moments necessary for things like “Beatle-Mania” or MJ in his Thriller Era

It’s not even a slight to modern art or artists it’s just simply part of an evolving world and the social ramifications that come with it

You had that loaded

Idk what youre talkin about but i wanted to add jus cus im smart dont mean i wouldnt slap the s*** outta you irl

Used to go to midnight releases for BOOKS and they were packed out

Mass anticipation was so fun

So your definition of a monoculture is unifying events

So what about iceman

What about the ice riots

Black lives matter

Make it make sense

Music as a whole is way more stratified than before BUT AS I SAID the particular things that are monoculture have shifted not disappeared

Music is out memes are in, anime is in, its just a shift of focus not a disappearance of the concept entirely

Sucks for music lovers

Persona 6 soon

No IceMan is not on the same level of occupying space in pop (I use “pop” loosely) culture that Views or Scorpion, is, objectively. DJ Akademiks and whatever lit streamers being looped all day on X and him doing the Iceblock promo doesn’t hold a candle and dare I say even objectively the sales can reflect if there’s one argument it’s valid. And you can use that for most artists so it’s not a “drake thin”

I wouldn’t say social crises and events of class struggle can be really compared to album releases or dropping music don’t think that’s relevant to what op was discussing at all

I love it. Ive been enjoying music so much since covid

Ok so maybe i misinterpeted the grounds for the debate (no i didnt watch the video because its a tired topic)

Yes monoculture within music is largely fragmented

Views came off the back of WATTBA, IYRT, he had been hyping it, and it had that whole Apple Music promo or whatever it was one of the first “big” albums of the streaming eras in a way. Oh s*** plus the meek beef. Way more people talking about Drake and in a positive way not even just word to word but press wise to

Scorpion came off More Life (which wasn’t really an album so had people in anticipation), obviously Pusha/Kanye beef, son revels, and his crazy 2018 feature/single run which is still his commercial peak technically IIRC

Ice-Man was kinda hyped up for awhile but also came after a two year peak with the beef, a bunch of okay-lukewarm Drake music released, and otherwise no one really talking about him outside maybe callbacks to the beef

It’s not really the same at all, again some of it is Drakes actions and his career trajectory but also a lot of it is just people are tapped out of hip hop, no general serious hip hop blogs, social media being more fragmented, etc and a lot of that isn’t drakes fault

Almost forgot about this twilight and fifty shades had that s*** on lock lol

Algorithms are methods of distribution, not media

does sports count or nah

You don’t know what I believe lol

Yea but what i meant is the media that algorithms are used for are effectively promoting info in a similar way to traditional media

Theyre both biased based on selling narratives