Eminem’s Recovery won over MBDTF. Macklemore’s album won over GKMC, NWTS and Yeezus. Their reputation will forever be tarnished
If people want awards based on charts there’s what the billboard awards are for. Grammy highlights the artistry of music
Do they, though? Did Taylor Swift display more artistry with 1989 than Kendrick Lamar did with TPAB?
None of this s*** matters
Charts actually matter. Fact
Are the people listening?
You see, streaming numbers are very important
They actually GAUGE what the people care about whether you think it's good or not
None of this nerdy critical s***, or whether something is "well-crafted" or "conceptual"

I stopped caring about award shows in general for a long time. I don’t know why artist keep seeking validation from these lame ass award shows. I would think as an artist, selling out venues would be the only validation I need.
Honestly don’t have a full thought to OP but I was watching bc my gf had it on for a bit and it felt so dystopian like straight out of The Hunger Games so I think dialing that down would be a start to seem more about music and less about famous people getting off on being famous
One minute it’s about who has the biggest album next minute it’s about who album was more acclaimed
Like be more consistent
Honestly don’t have a full thought to OP but I was watching bc my gf had it on for a bit and it felt so dystopian like straight out of The Hunger Games so I think dialing that down would be a start to seem more about music and less about famous people getting off on being famous
Lmao right
A lot of s*** feels like that nowadays. You ever watch the masked singer? That s*** looks straight out of The Capitol
I think the real answer is to have an alternative for black culture that actually is relevant in today’s world. I know we have the BET awards but I think yall know what I mean that has no meaning anymore especially considering BET is not minority owned
Honestly don’t have a full thought to OP but I was watching bc my gf had it on for a bit and it felt so dystopian like straight out of The Hunger Games so I think dialing that down would be a start to seem more about music and less about famous people getting off on being famous
this is interesting, what were some examples of this you saw?
One minute it’s about who has the biggest album next minute it’s about who album was more acclaimed
Like be more consistent
Consistent how though lmao ?
Should they lean more towards the biggest album every year (Taylor Swift) or the more “acclaimed” album every year (Jon Batiste)
I’d argue their lack of consistency in one way or the other is the most “fair” way to do it idk
Lmao right
A lot of s*** feels like that nowadays. You ever watch the masked singer? That s*** looks straight out of The Capitol
I see the commercials and can’t imagine
I think I’ll have nightmares of Trevor Noah smiling for the next three weeks lol
this is interesting, what were some examples of this you saw?
I think a lot of it had to do with the presentation and Trevor Noah lol no shade to him but it was very off putting. Then idk I guess compared to the award shows from the 00s which is what I spent a lot of time watching the energy just seemed a lot more stuck up which is non tangible but I’m sure I’m not the only one that felt that way
I think the real answer is to have an alternative for black culture that actually is relevant in today’s world. I know we have the BET awards but I think yall know what I mean that has no meaning anymore especially considering BET is not minority owned
Seems slippery to kinda just…have black people erase themselves from the Grammys entirely if that’s what ur saying, because unfortunately the Grammys “prestige” isn’t going away any time
This topic specifically was discussed in another Grammy thread earlier today
I think a lot of it had to do with the presentation and Trevor Noah lol no shade to him but it was very off putting. Then idk I guess compared to the award shows from the 00s which is what I spent a lot of time watching the energy just seemed a lot more stuck up which is non tangible but I’m sure I’m not the only one that felt that way
word gotcha
Do they, though? Did Taylor Swift display more artistry with 1989 than Kendrick Lamar did with TPAB?
I don’t like Kdot but they can’t be right all the time.
Taylor has the pulse of the everyday basic American girl I can’t fault them for picking that. The heist over GKMC however was
Egregious
Seems slippery to kinda just…have black people erase themselves from the Grammys entirely if that’s what ur saying, because unfortunately the Grammys “prestige” isn’t going away any time
This topic specifically was discussed in another Grammy thread earlier today
That’s a good point I guess I don’t really have a good answer per se maybe not to disassociate but to have an alternative that is just as valid would be a start! Good topic to think on tbh
I don’t like Kdot but they can’t be right all the time.
Taylor has the pulse of the everyday basic American girl I can’t fault them for picking that. The heist over GKMC however was
Egregious
Respect but do u see how ur counteracting what u said before?
Not a diss btw this topic is just hard to boil down to one “correct” answer
Eminem’s Recovery won over MBDTF. Macklemore’s album won over GKMC, NWTS and Yeezus. Their reputation will forever be tarnished
Thank u for bringing receipts
Grammy aint about music
None of this s*** matters
Charts actually matter. Fact
Are the people listening?
You see, streaming numbers are very important
They actually GAUGE what the people care about whether you think it's good or not
None of this nerdy critical s***, or whether something is "well-crafted" or "conceptual"
Consistent how though lmao ?
Should they lean more towards the biggest album every year (Taylor Swift) or the more “acclaimed” album every year (Jon Batiste)
I’d argue their lack of consistency in one way or the other is the most “fair” way to do it idk
They should pick one or the other either focus on the “biggest” or “acclaimed” because it doesn’t make sense
I’ve seen people argue taylor won aoty because she had the biggest album and that’s what the grammys based it off, I’m like how is that the case when killer mike swept the rap category based off an acclaimed album i don't even think he cracked 50k first week lmao
Give awards to my favorite artists
Batiste winning over Sour and Happier Than Ever that year was some crazy work no lie
Who even was that guy?
And also Beck in 2014 or whatever year Kanye nearly upstaged him
They should pick one or the other either focus on the “biggest” or “acclaimed” because it doesn’t make sense
I’ve seen people argue taylor won aoty because she had the biggest album and that’s what the grammys based it off, I’m like how is that the case when killer mike swept the rap category based off an acclaimed album i don't even think he cracked 50k first week lmao
It seems to be about both at once. But in a “which nominee is more of one than the other nominees are either” sorta way