we're now at almost 6 years since Whole Lotta Red

the Rolling Loud lineup this year was headlined by Carti and Ken Carson for 2 out of 3 of the nights, and almost the entire lineup below them was from this underground scene, a good chunk of which is loud, abrasive, and wild like 2slimey, Che, etc.

do you think this type of music can become the leading sound in hip-hop? is it more of a subculture and its own subgenre? is it still just a fad?

hopefully it dies sooner rather than later

They put distortion & clipping on some trap beats & said look we made a whole new sub genre

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as it stands, the high watermark of rage is WLR and that little run yeat had in 2021-2023. it probably isn't getting anymore prominent than that, mostly because the artists who encompass the subgenre are not good at writing music and have no crossover appeal.

i think we already in the post-rage era

What else is a subgenre (in 2026) but some slight tweaks on something that came before + a different aesthetic and branding?

I would've said the same thing but when I see this festival lineup I'm like, maybe this is just the beginning

I think Che is really good at making music and I also like some others like ezcodylee

If the music is easy to make, requires little to no structure, has a low financial barrier of entry and is associated with youthfulness / rooted in a “they won’t understand” attitude, it can go on for a while

Its levels to this s***

The best music is a mix of future/2014 metro or tm88 style trap with rage like the new bleood

Wlr is ass

Yep the main innovation is jus the 808 mixing

To me rage is like metal, they're subgenres that have their own lane in music and sub developments. The newer distortion rage is like thrash metal. Rage will probably weave into the mainstream more but also continue to delve off into its own culture.

Ken Carson should be smashing Dua Lipa

It peaked in 2020 and has been declining ever since.

hit its peak already the fact that these dudes can make enough money off s***ty east and west coast tours and then 2 rolling louds a year is a tragedy

The ceiling was wlr and niggas been trying to recreate that same feeling

i knew they were cooked when their fanbase gets mad everytime they a get a dude to actually rap on those beats

It’s not for me but glad this new generation enjoys it I guess

That is true. People will jump off the boat if it doesn't eventually convert though. People are throwing hella money into it rn, some of these artists non-Opium will need to start converting for them to keep doing it. From a purely financial perspective

I don't actually like the term "rageslop" fwiw but I think mumble rap is worse dogwhistle-wise