just met w these conservative dudes that want to make a cartoon abt benefit cliffs. essentially the idea that government assistance damages people in the long run because it discourages improving your life situation.

what is socialist and capitalist ktt's response to this? I dont think i want to work on the video anyways cause they cant afford it and theyre short but it seems like an a****** stance to hold. like the poverty problem in america is caused by too much help

nigga linked up with Dennis Prager

My opinion is

they’re short as in literally tiny people? lmao

that was my first thought

That is such an old ass take that has been debunked countless times

Legit just capitalist/elite propaganda.

Probably funded by the people funding prageru

It discourages people being wage-slaves

"you're poor because the government gave you Medicaid and a big pell grant"

You are allowed to discriminate based on ideological views for creative endeavors now

I think it can go both ways honestly

From personal expirence with my mom being on section 8 after I turned 18, if I made "too much" money (I'm the only one who works), we'd be at risk of losing our section 8, so for a while I had to turn down some work opportunities in order to meet that threshold to be able to have a place to live.

At a certain point tho, I had to take a promotion at work and we ended up losing it, so that pushed me even further to get a better paying job an even though we struggled for a minute, inshallah we should be on track to do even better without it.

Tl;DR-It can cause people to become stagnant, but more likely than not at a certain point most people choose to boss up from that and make it on their own, which is why I still support social systems even though there's reform to be done.

yes short capitalists that chew cigars and hoverboard in the office

Read cliffs as c***s I need to get my mind out the gutter

aint no cliff if it's just for everyone

Benefit cliffs are bad

We should liquidate the bourgeoisie and expropriate 100% of their private wealth to public infrastructure and social programs and nationalize their businesses to become publicly owned means of production instead.

universal healthcare and benefits phase-outs that are more in line with the cost of living

Why fight for crumbs on the table when you can get the whole pie? You cooked it anyway, the capitalist just assumes to take the product of your labor because they have enough financial power to do so. They are objectively parasitic and should be purged in the same way that lords and absolute monarchs were purged in previous economic epochs. There's no need for government assistance, there's just a need to purge parasites (the bourgeoisie) from the economy.

this is what they were talking about. i guess the gap between qualifying for assistance and actually being able to pay bills is especially wide in west va

Move to politics btw

Admittedly if we did this the economy would be in a constant state of turmoil and would experience widescale collapse every five or so years. Even with corporate bailouts every 10-20 years we experience huge economic crises because you can only kick the can down the road so far

If capitalism is going to exist there's simply going to be a need for social welfare and corporate bailouts to make it work. Otherwise we'll be in constant chaos where even most of the wealthy are constantly at risk of losing literally everything through no direct fault of their own. The myth that unlimited, uncoordinated economic growth can just be sustained in perpetuity is a damn near vulgarized theological parody.

Fr getting a little extra benefits isn’t going to stop people from working hard lmao, studies show it actually makes people work harder

Not entirely wrong not entirely right
The people who abuse government assistance long term probably never had any plan to improve their situation to begin with or just gave up at some point but it’s a great resource for those who are really pursuing something better

People who outright deny government assistance usually have some prejudiced rationale for it though

Your initial instincts are correct. You don’t want to work with 2 short conservative a******s and propagate their asinine worldview