Sloth

2y

Act like you care about Muslims, you were prob supporting the Iranian protests

Yuzzy

2y

Who's social media? Chinese state?

xxxkiraxxx

2y

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the thing is his first source is Douyin which is literally owned China social media and one of my sources is Wikileaks which is probably as real as it gets and and the World Uyghur congress

Sloth

2y

Douyin is just a quick accessible source with real videos on the ground. I'm compiling a list of real sources dw

Sloth

2y

Act like you care about Muslims, you were prob supporting the Iranian protests

Sloth

2y

Act like you care about Muslims, you were prob supporting the Iranian protests

Birdie

2y

Most Muslims I know support the Iranian protests … Shia and Sunni alike too

Birdie

2y

Most Muslims I know support the Iranian protests … Shia and Sunni alike too

Sloth

2y

Not the ones actually in Iran

Birdie

2y

Do you defend the regime because of their diplomatic ties to China

xxxkiraxxx

2y

Yeah I‘m interested you can take your time

Sloth

2y

Here's some sources debunking the "genocide"

There is no decline in Uyghur population, in fact it's on the rise (www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202008/29/WS5f4a242fa310675eafc56477.html)

That article also mentions how birth rates did decline for a moment, I wonder why

Well, they were only just recently subjected to family planning regulations that the Han have been subjected to for much longer. They previously had the opportunity to have more children than the rest of the Chinese population (https://time.com/4881898/china-xinjiang-uighur-children/)

This claim is further proven by census data in the 80s showing ethnic minority populations grew significantly faster than the Han population:

While China's treatment of Muslims is criticized in the west, real organizations like the Organization of Islamic Cooperation not only not critiqued China but praised their efforts "in providing care to its Muslim citizens" (https://www.oic-oci.org/docdown/?docID=4447&refID=1250)

Birdie

2y

• Cites data fromthe 1980s

• The OIC is a joke and tool used by the Saudi royal family and OPEC

It does not represent the interests of Muslims, it represents nation interests. Are you suddenly a supporter of the Saudi Arabian government now? Are you a supporter of OIC’s support of Yemen’s destruction? You’re really gonna sit here and try to use a Saudi government controlled organization to legitimize your argument..? Anyone who has any sort of actual proximity to the Middle East knows Saudis don’t give a f*** about Islam or real Muslims; most detest this government and what’s its done. Saudi Arabia is the biggest funder of terrorism along with the United States. You’re citing an article where a Saudi funded organization is praising Chinas crackdown of Terrorism??? This is where you get your views from??? These are the same governments to normalize diplomatic relations with Israel, support mass death in Yemen, allowed the US/Russia to destroy iraq/Syria .. countless other anti-Muslim instances

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-muslim-middle-east-supports-china’s-xinjiang-crackdown-171088?amp

The evidence presented earlier regarding the wiki leaks, direct testament of actual Uyghurs is way more credible than this propaganda

Sloth

2y

Here's some sources debunking the "genocide"

There is no decline in Uyghur population, in fact it's on the rise (www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202008/29/WS5f4a242fa310675eafc56477.html)

That article also mentions how birth rates did decline for a moment, I wonder why

Well, they were only just recently subjected to family planning regulations that the Han have been subjected to for much longer. They previously had the opportunity to have more children than the rest of the Chinese population (https://time.com/4881898/china-xinjiang-uighur-children/)

This claim is further proven by census data in the 80s showing ethnic minority populations grew significantly faster than the Han population:

While China's treatment of Muslims is criticized in the west, real organizations like the Organization of Islamic Cooperation not only not critiqued China but praised their efforts "in providing care to its Muslim citizens" (https://www.oic-oci.org/docdown/?docID=4447&refID=1250)

Birdie

2y

• Cites data fromthe 1980s

• The OIC is a joke and tool used by the Saudi royal family and OPEC

It does not represent the interests of Muslims, it represents nation interests. Are you suddenly a supporter of the Saudi Arabian government now? Are you a supporter of OIC’s support of Yemen’s destruction? You’re really gonna sit here and try to use a Saudi government controlled organization to legitimize your argument..? Anyone who has any sort of actual proximity to the Middle East knows Saudis don’t give a f*** about Islam or real Muslims; most detest this government and what’s its done. Saudi Arabia is the biggest funder of terrorism along with the United States. You’re citing an article where a Saudi funded organization is praising Chinas crackdown of Terrorism??? This is where you get your views from??? These are the same governments to normalize diplomatic relations with Israel, support mass death in Yemen, allowed the US/Russia to destroy iraq/Syria .. countless other anti-Muslim instances

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-muslim-middle-east-supports-china’s-xinjiang-crackdown-171088?amp

The evidence presented earlier regarding the wiki leaks, direct testament of actual Uyghurs is way more credible than this propaganda

Sloth

2y

The data from the 80s was to prove the unregulated family code I referred to. The OIC speaks more for Muslims than the West which has done more destruction to Muslim nations than anyone else.

xxxkiraxxx

2y

1. "While China's treatment of Muslims is criticized in the west, real organizations like the Organization of Islamic Cooperation not only not critiqued China but praised their efforts "in providing care to its Muslim citizens" (oic-oci.org/docdown/?docID=4447&refID=1250)"

Many Muslim countries receive billions of dollars from China and are completely dependent militarily and economically. Pakistan has deep military ties to China and it is no coincidence that the two-day gathering of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi was in Islambad, Pakistan too.
Other than that there are still Muslim countries like Turkey who spoke up against China’s opression and are ALSO in the Organization of Islamic Cooperation which shows that the opinion there is not one-sided. Also, the Palestine-Israel conflict has already shown a dozen of times that most muslim countries don‘t give af about other muslims besides their own folk.

2.
"There is no decline in Uyghur population, in fact it's on the rise (www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202008/29/WS5f4a242fa310675eafc56477.html)
That article also mentions how birth rates did decline for a moment, I wonder why "

The article you send is from China Daily….. The source for these statistics are from a Xinjiang's official whom I can’t find anywhere online and can also be corrupt/paid. Manipulating statistics is an easy task. Besides that, the 80s data is cool I respect that but if the concentration camps really started in 2017/18 the data is irrelevant.

And also even if the Uyghurs could have 2 or 3 children it would still affect them a lot since they culturally make more children 4-7 and many family’s would lose their children.

Yuzzy

2y

Communists who define themselves by opposing the West should be studied

Sloth

2y

Aren't you an anarchist

Yuzzy

2y

Not really

Sloth

2y

Then what are you because I only see you flaming Communists