papawheely

11mo

sounds like bigbabygucci to me which is totally fine

Fax My Brother

11mo

@melz is crazy

barry dillon

11mo

easy ktt shorthand for "old heads stay out of this thread i cant stand ur dusty ways"

lonny860

11mo

Hey, great thread. Your mind is in the right place, and I agree with you. When we look at the landscape and dare I say it..the charts..electronic leaning rap with melodies is a huge market in rap. (i.e Carnival charting so high, Travis Scott, Don Tolliver, Carti, Yeat)

Benji being from an underground space smacks him in a great hot bed but here's the disconnect ; His Image

If we put things in this space in some type of ranking from an underground POV where Yeat and Ian are at the top, Lunchbox Talin and Daredevi are in the middle..I see Benji somewhere right under them.

What separates Yeat and Ian from everyone else is being able to really push their brands on top of the music in a cohesive way where everyone else either crutches on being anonymous or hasn't hit the nail on the head when it comes to branding.

I think people will take Benji as serious as he allows us as an audience to. But he has a clear space to operate in. He just has to package it a lil better and lean into the communities to stand out as a character as that is sadly an essential part of it all. I also think musically he can approve a bit, he's hard but some of the mixing is super fried but I see the vision, so I vibe. His production and beat selection is underrated.

lonny860

11mo

Hey, great thread. Your mind is in the right place, and I agree with you. When we look at the landscape and dare I say it..the charts..electronic leaning rap with melodies is a huge market in rap. (i.e Carnival charting so high, Travis Scott, Don Tolliver, Carti, Yeat)

Benji being from an underground space smacks him in a great hot bed but here's the disconnect ; His Image

If we put things in this space in some type of ranking from an underground POV where Yeat and Ian are at the top, Lunchbox Talin and Daredevi are in the middle..I see Benji somewhere right under them.

What separates Yeat and Ian from everyone else is being able to really push their brands on top of the music in a cohesive way where everyone else either crutches on being anonymous or hasn't hit the nail on the head when it comes to branding.

I think people will take Benji as serious as he allows us as an audience to. But he has a clear space to operate in. He just has to package it a lil better and lean into the communities to stand out as a character as that is sadly an essential part of it all. I also think musically he can approve a bit, he's hard but some of the mixing is super fried but I see the vision, so I vibe. His production and beat selection is underrated.

EchiJewel

11mo

bro @'d melz in the title

barry dillon

11mo

nah some of the old benji songs have horrible mixes but he's had some of the best vocal mixing in the game for at least a year and a half now

i get what ur saying abt image but we do have to address the elephant in the room. Ian and Yeat are both white guys with big budgets. I don't think either of them are better at curating a public image than benjicold, they just got label packages and white privilege. whereas benji is doing this sht on his own, fully independent.

i bet if he got on his lazer grind n dropped hella cheap ass videos he could blow up tho. like ur right abt benji needing a more refined public image, but i also think ur giving ian and yeat too much credit.

bigdíckgirl666

11mo

i havent heard his rapping yet op but ill check him out in a min

barry dillon

11mo

nah some of the old benji songs have horrible mixes but he's had some of the best vocal mixing in the game for at least a year and a half now

i get what ur saying abt image but we do have to address the elephant in the room. Ian and Yeat are both white guys with big budgets. I don't think either of them are better at curating a public image than benjicold, they just got label packages and white privilege. whereas benji is doing this sht on his own, fully independent.

i bet if he got on his lazer grind n dropped hella cheap ass videos he could blow up tho. like ur right abt benji needing a more refined public image, but i also think ur giving ian and yeat too much credit.

lonny860

11mo

We can agree to disagree on the mixing, pretty subjective to our separate ears and its not like its horrible to any degree, or like it even really matters that much for him (Glock40..Lazerdim)

Digressing back to main point, he kinda just has an extreme lack of face card in a space where people's attention spans are pretty here n there. I think his style is dope but holy s***, drop a music video or something. A triller even. Show what you look like..Something.

I think he could be something if he feels like putting his "Im a Rapper" hat on

Lunchbox is a few music videos away from turning that corner, I dont see why Benji couldnt.

lonny860

11mo

We can agree to disagree on the mixing, pretty subjective to our separate ears and its not like its horrible to any degree, or like it even really matters that much for him (Glock40..Lazerdim)

Digressing back to main point, he kinda just has an extreme lack of face card in a space where people's attention spans are pretty here n there. I think his style is dope but holy s***, drop a music video or something. A triller even. Show what you look like..Something.

I think he could be something if he feels like putting his "Im a Rapper" hat on

Lunchbox is a few music videos away from turning that corner, I dont see why Benji couldnt.

lonny860

11mo

And to your second half of your response..not even to be argumentative: Its true that both of them are currently white rappers with budgets.

But so is Talin? Difference is, his image doesnt click the same way that Yeat or Ian's does. Yeat got his mysterious s***. Ian got his super regular s***. But Talin? You can't pinpoint it. Yet. But us as overly-into it listeners can appreciate the art. So we vibe. But it takes more than that to BLOW up past surface level "this is cool s*** yall not on yet" levels