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  • Apr 28, 2020

    All major urban city hubs being made up of 20-30s white collars workers and upper middle class with no poorer populations left at all?

    The former poor populations moving into poorer midwest/rural areas with even less economic mobility/resources, thus worsening the inequality issues in the country?

    Don't see it going any other way in next 20 or so years.

    America going out sad, poor immigrant families in cities about to be living next to trump supporters in hickville.

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    It’s all a cycle. It’s happened before it’ll happen again

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    me and kanye voting for the same dude

  • OP
    Apr 28, 2020
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    NakedBalenciaga

    It’s all a cycle. It’s happened before it’ll happen again

    Eh I don't think so (not in this country/modern economy)

    Inequality growth rates have gotten worse and worse exponentially.

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    Suburbs become the ghetto, it's already happening in PG County, Maryland with everyone being pushed out of DC

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    Mel

    Eh I don't think so (not in this country/modern economy)

    Inequality growth rates have gotten worse and worse exponentially.

    And they will eventually fall again friend

  • Shabazz999

    Suburbs become the ghetto, it's already happening in PG County, Maryland with everyone being pushed out of DC

    Thank you friend

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    Apr 28, 2020
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    NakedBalenciaga

    And they will eventually fall again friend

    How when education is becoming more and more expensive than ever before and unskilled labor jobs shrink

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    It’s just another form of segregation

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    Apr 28, 2020
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    Ooo

    It’s just another form of segregation

    Agreed

    whether intentional or not

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    I think we can make a bit of change in regard to this.
    At least out here in Seattle, the VAST majority of our zoning for homes is zoned specifically for single family housing. Something like 80%. I know a few cities are up there with us like that, 6 or 7 major US cities.
    Homes cost at least 1 or 2 million up here.
    I think a big thing to do is to chop that single family housing zoning down, turn it into multi-family.
    One problem with that, then, is luxury apartments start popping up.
    Need to re-form the tax credit system, I think, then, in order to incentivize people to build affordable housing.

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    Apr 28, 2020
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    Ooo

    Very intentional
    https://ktt2.com/the-suburbs-were-created-for-families-but-now-families-are-moving-to-23859

    idk if classism or racism is the same tho (correlation/causation issue)

    Business just care about money, real estate developers and city officials realize that. So funnel in bunch of developments to college grads and workers into cities to raise standard of living.

    Sure there probably is a race component in there but it would vary too much from municipalities

  • Mel

    How when education is becoming more and more expensive than ever before and unskilled labor jobs shrink

    They will. It may be a long long time from now but all I said was eventually.

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    Marx says something akin to alienation caused by the capitalist system is the cause of homelessness, poverty, hunger, exploitation, etc. It is engrained into the system itself.
    We cannot just go in there and fine-tune these things; it is rather the entire system which is broken.

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    I see a platform arising within the next 10 years or so that allows blue collar/lower income folks to leverage their numbers into forming small local substructures utilizing their collective purchasing power in order to help combat gentrification. Kind of like a union but location based instead of profession based.

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    Apr 28, 2020
    space0cadet

    I think we can make a bit of change in regard to this.
    At least out here in Seattle, the VAST majority of our zoning for homes is zoned specifically for single family housing. Something like 80%. I know a few cities are up there with us like that, 6 or 7 major US cities.
    Homes cost at least 1 or 2 million up here.
    I think a big thing to do is to chop that single family housing zoning down, turn it into multi-family.
    One problem with that, then, is luxury apartments start popping up.
    Need to re-form the tax credit system, I think, then, in order to incentivize people to build affordable housing.

    Yea, NYC recently had some renter friendly reform laws passed out and rent control does exist.

    Issue is still SOL in general though besides housing.

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    DZE

    I see a platform arising within the next 10 years or so that allows blue collar/lower income folks to leverage their numbers into forming small local substructures utilizing their collective purchasing power in order to help combat gentrification. Kind of like a union but location based instead of profession based.

    Are you ok?

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    Apr 28, 2020
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    DZE

    I see a platform arising within the next 10 years or so that allows blue collar/lower income folks to leverage their numbers into forming small local substructures utilizing their collective purchasing power in order to help combat gentrification. Kind of like a union but location based instead of profession based.

    sounds like something that would stomped out unless politicians on the left rep it mainstream

  • Apr 28, 2020
    Shabazz999

    Suburbs become the ghetto, it's already happening in PG County, Maryland with everyone being pushed out of DC

    yeah pretty much

    DC is unfortunately a big example of this

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    NakedBalenciaga

    Are you ok?

    Wym lol?

  • Apr 28, 2020
    Mel

    idk if classism or racism is the same tho (correlation/causation issue)

    Business just care about money, real estate developers and city officials realize that. So funnel in bunch of developments to college grads and workers into cities to raise standard of living.

    Sure there probably is a race component in there but it would vary too much from municipalities

    Yeah but business also did not want to live in the city they were doing business in due to said circumstances. But then when gentrification started they saw they could take advantage of it and get those they didn’t want there out and the ones they want in

  • Apr 28, 2020
    Mel

    Agreed

    whether intentional or not

    read about redlining

    Lots of the residents who were originally from areas that are now gentrifying never had the opportunity to buy in when property was affordable due to unethical lending practices.

  • Apr 28, 2020
    Mel

    sounds like something that would stomped out unless politicians on the left rep it mainstream

    Not necessarily I mean it would just be a way for people to utilize pooled resources more efficiently.

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    Shabazz999

    Suburbs become the ghetto, it's already happening in PG County, Maryland with everyone being pushed out of DC

    came in and already knew this example was here. you from PG?