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  • Aug 2, 2022
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    Wait till the permafrost fully melt into the seas and diseases from frozen animal carcasses that weā€™ve never even experienced before gets out there.

    COVID and Monkeypox is the warmup.

  • Aug 2, 2022
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    Maccaveli101

    Wait till the permafrost fully melt into the seas and diseases from frozen animal carcasses that weā€™ve never even experienced before gets out there.

    COVID and Monkeypox is the warmup.

  • Aug 2, 2022
    Himothee

    5 years ago Russia had a f***ing anthrax outbreak due to the permafrost melting up there.

    Imagine all the prehistoric diseases hidden in there that weā€™ve never even experienced as a species.

    Tyrannosauruspox coming 2025.

  • Aug 2, 2022
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    Maccaveli101

    Wait till the permafrost fully melt into the seas and diseases from frozen animal carcasses that weā€™ve never even experienced before gets out there.

    COVID and Monkeypox is the warmup.

    viruses have to satisfy a lot of specific conditions to cause a pandemic in humans, its unlikely that some random frozen virus from a million years ago is going to hit on all of them

    especially because they can still accumulate damage while frozen and might be 'dead' when thawed out i.e. russian scientists trying to revive the smallpox from bodies they found in permafrost in the 90s

    anthrax is kinda a special case if you know anything about how the bacteria works

  • Aug 2, 2022
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    Tkken

    viruses have to satisfy a lot of specific conditions to cause a pandemic in humans, its unlikely that some random frozen virus from a million years ago is going to hit on all of them

    especially because they can still accumulate damage while frozen and might be 'dead' when thawed out i.e. russian scientists trying to revive the smallpox from bodies they found in permafrost in the 90s

    anthrax is kinda a special case if you know anything about how the bacteria works

    Thereā€™s gonna be a lot of unknown s*** in there and itā€™s only gonna take one or two of them to be a problem. Itā€™s absolutely not a highly unlikely scenario and thereā€™s plenty of science to support that.

    There could be viruses under there that arenā€™t affected by the low temperatures and we donā€™t know because weā€™ve never seen them before.

  • Aug 2, 2022
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    Maccaveli101

    Thereā€™s gonna be a lot of unknown s*** in there and itā€™s only gonna take one or two of them to be a problem. Itā€™s absolutely not a highly unlikely scenario and thereā€™s plenty of science to support that.

    There could be viruses under there that arenā€™t affected by the low temperatures and we donā€™t know because weā€™ve never seen them before.

    'plenty of science to support that' ok where

    the chance of a disease that was infecting animals millions of years ago surviving a thaw then causing a pandemic in humans is very very low

    look at the diseases that have recently made zoonotic jumps and their pathways to doing so

  • Aug 2, 2022
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    Tkken

    'plenty of science to support that' ok where

    the chance of a disease that was infecting animals millions of years ago surviving a thaw then causing a pandemic in humans is very very low

    look at the diseases that have recently made zoonotic jumps and their pathways to doing so

    scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=permafrost+melting+diseases&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart

    Take your pick from all these scholars versed in the subject.

    But we arenā€™t talking about the current zoonotic diseases, weā€™re talking about ones that arenā€™t even part of current ecosystems.

  • Aug 2, 2022
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    Maccaveli101

    https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=permafrost+melting+diseases&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart

    Take your pick from all these scholars versed in the subject.

    But we arenā€™t talking about the current zoonotic diseases, weā€™re talking about ones that arenā€™t even part of current ecosystems.

    bro you cant just throw google scholar at me and call it a reply but for the sake of discussion I read through the first link

    it admits that anthrax is a unique case because it grows spores which can lay dormant and frozen for years

    talks about the scientists who revived a virus that was trapped in the siberian permafrost for 30k years then realized it only infects single-celled amoebas

    quotes a scientist saying that most viruses are "rapidly inactivated outside of host cells" bc of radiation and degradation and s***

    then caps it off with this gem of a quote:
    "Following our work and that of others, there is now a non-zero probability that pathogenic microbes could
    be revived, and infect us," says Claverie. "How likely that is is not known, but it's a possibility."

    now if you actually read the article it offers workarounds to all of the things I mentioned, but its all hand-wavey hypotheticals not actual scientific evidence

  • Aug 2, 2022
    BIGGWAVE

    we gettin moneypox this summer

  • Aug 2, 2022

    its cap

  • Scratchin Mamba āš’ļø
    Aug 2, 2022
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    fun

    idk its still so rare im not worried about it like statistically what are the odds of me getting it

    unless cases increase a lot im not too concerned atm

    this post feels like deja vu

    Ahh good times.....

  • Tadow

    Released a statement to a local news station

    Lmao nigga watching the news like "That's where the stripper let me touch a titty last weekend "

  • Aug 2, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    Ahh good times.....

    I remember you telling me like 24 hours before Russia began their invasion that there was no way Russia would do that s***.

    Good times, indeed.

    :dany

  • Aug 2, 2022
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    Tkken

    bro you cant just throw google scholar at me and call it a reply but for the sake of discussion I read through the first link

    it admits that anthrax is a unique case because it grows spores which can lay dormant and frozen for years

    talks about the scientists who revived a virus that was trapped in the siberian permafrost for 30k years then realized it only infects single-celled amoebas

    quotes a scientist saying that most viruses are "rapidly inactivated outside of host cells" bc of radiation and degradation and s***

    then caps it off with this gem of a quote:
    "Following our work and that of others, there is now a non-zero probability that pathogenic microbes could
    be revived, and infect us," says Claverie. "How likely that is is not known, but it's a possibility."

    now if you actually read the article it offers workarounds to all of the things I mentioned, but its all hand-wavey hypotheticals not actual scientific evidence

    ā€œFollowing our work and that of others, there is now a non-zero probability that pathogenic microbes could
    be revived, and infect us,ā€

    Literally my entire point. I donā€™t know how you can say Iā€™m wrong when thatā€™s the case.

    And thatā€™s just based on whatā€™s come out of the permafrost so far.

  • Aug 2, 2022
    Maccaveli101

    ā€œFollowing our work and that of others, there is now a non-zero probability that pathogenic microbes could
    be revived, and infect us,ā€

    Literally my entire point. I donā€™t know how you can say Iā€™m wrong when thatā€™s the case.

    And thatā€™s just based on whatā€™s come out of the permafrost so far.

    ok but there is a non-zero probability of almost anything

    having read the full article its basically just semi plausible speculation. if thats your point then sure no disagreement there, but its not something i would lose sleep over

    but we both know preventing permafrost from melting is a good/necessary thing regardless so I think we're on the same page either way

  • americana šŸŖ½
    Jan 3, 2023
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    Flopped after COVID and Ethered by Flu SZN

    SAD!

  • Jan 3, 2023
    americana

    Flopped after COVID and Ethered by Flu SZN

    SAD!

    Glad I didnā€™t get the microchip