Newhouse

5y

More people know who Beyoncé is but more people listen to Drakes music than Beyoncé’s.

BRAVE

5y

Drake is definitely an icon, even if not in an MJ/Beyonce type way. Also I don't wanna sound like I'm doing mental gymnastics but there's two very real reasons for what you're saying and the glaring disparity between how the hip-hop community/youth views him and how the public outside of that views him:

• his pre-streaming hits not being as present on mainstream white radio as the huge pop hits of the time that overshadowed him (ie the Nicki Minaj #1 issue)
• he doesn't have any huge public persona defining tabloid stories that inform the average joe's perception of him, ie every demographic knowing that Taylor Swift breaks up with famous dudes then writes songs about them without having to know any of her songs

beast444

5y

Beyonce's fans are 17 years in and she'll still go #1 on Billboard 200 from actual pure sales. Bey's Lemonade sold 485k in pure sales first week. Drake's last studio album Scorpion sold 160k in pure sales. Pure sales might actually be more important metric as it shows that more people are willing to go out and buy Bey's music ieven if they could've gone to Tidal for a free-trial and listen to the album that way. It was also the best selling album of 2016 selling over 2.5 million and has sold over 2 million pure sales in the US while Drake's Scorpion has yet to hit 1 million. Streaming is the new big thing but pure sales shows that people are a bit more interested if they will buy it and not just repeatedly listen for free, or a reduced price that covers all.

We all know OP just ried to start a stan wars too

Htownwolf

5y

Bro you are comparing albums in two diff sales climates
That same year 2016 drake sold 850k pure first week

Htownwolf

5y

Bro you are comparing albums in two diff sales climates
That same year 2016 drake sold 850k pure first week

beast444

5y

i'm just saying it must show how much fans are willing to buy vs listen for free. i don't hate streaming i stream music myself. i'm just saying that the fact that people are willing to spend money on one vs listen to the other for a price that includes all or for free shows something about the artist's fans.

plus this is about worldwide fanbases. Drake has a international fanbase, but not to the extent of Beyonce's. she seems to have a much larger international fanbase than Drake which is what the question was about. other fonts brought up sales and stats and tours, i just continued the already relevant conversation at hand

Htownwolf

5y

Not really
It just shows that some people are still not technologically up to date
Thats like using dvd sales vs netflix streams

Htownwolf

5y

Not really
It just shows that some people are still not technologically up to date
Thats like using dvd sales vs netflix streams

Freight

5y

These days it can also indicate how many hipster music snobs they have in their fanbase. Kendrick and Frank sell hella vinyls.

beast444

5y

i know. i was just trying to use their most recent studio albums. it wasn't the best matchup tbh but we did have an actual european speak so...

beast444

5y

both are equally important tbh. some artists don't get the streaming support but do sale a lot more in pure sales and vice versa.

Htownwolf

5y

That means nothing lmao
Drake literally did 6 nights at the O2
He def has a huge following in europe

Htownwolf

5y

That means nothing lmao
Drake literally did 6 nights at the O2
He def has a huge following in europe

beast444

5y

all i said in that post was that we had an actual european speak. was anything wrong with what i said? he said that he is not worshipped there as much as we would assume as a european himself. if he said the opposite, i would have said oh ok then I guess he has a bigger international following than her. i'm just tryna go based off of what a regular common person himself said, not the media, or stans as we tend to over exaggerate one artist to pull down another sometimes.

JJThaJuiceman

5y

Hol up lemme ask worldwide

Freight

5y

One person's experience doesn't mean much tbh. My neighbor from Paris didn't know who Drake was even though she lived in the city the same time Drake did 3 nights in an arena there. You take either of those things by themselves and you can create a narrative that either nobody there knows Drake or that he's one of the most popular artists.

the reds

5y

What'd he say

beast444

5y

lmao. well, one got boo'd after being a suprise guest at a music festival during the peak of their career and that's never happened to the other one, even as they slowly decline so...

Freight

5y

yeah I'm sure this dude would've been real excited to see beyonce instead of frank

beast444

5y

i'm just saying, IDK how that happened if Drake is one of the biggest stars in the world. I never would have imagined that. I can't think of a best selling artist on his level ever being boo'd like that. The least they could have done was just not cheer. Like that was pretty rude imo. But again, if it was any other circumstance, tbh I still can't see it. He should have gotten at least silence if they weren't gonna cheer

Freight

5y

Yeah I'm sure Beyonce would get silence and not boos if she came out to Formation at a country music festival