let’s be real ppl mostly acknowledge GRODT as a classic many because of its sales
delete ur account right now
go ahead and name one doing sumn interesting
brockhampton/jpeg try some diff stuff here and there. Carti/Uzi too.
Apart from that, most these mfers jus making the same s*** we been heard over and over again whether its Spitta or Griselda or Gunna or Lil Baby or Roc Marciano
JPEG for sure
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Tierra Whack
basically peep my threads lol, but underground hip-hop is thriving stupidly atm and is seriously diverse and experimental musically
Why are you even wasting your time arguing with this dude fam
i'm just bored lol
Yet MMLP is a classic
as much as y’all like to rip on em now (deservedly so) MMLP is a better album than GRODT
That’s a dumb argument because sales clearly matter now and there are hella rappers who aren’t selling who are still popular. Thug was flopping for years when sales mattered and that didn’t stop his career at all, but since you bring up Jadakiss
Jadakiss was beefing with 50 Cent and had to consistently defend his record sales because that was the biggest thing 50 had over him, “You might sell more records than me but in the streets you’ll always be second to me” because sales mattered, he wouldn’t even have to have said that if they didn’t
But regardless that’s a dumb argument because I never said sales were make or break, but sales absolutely did come up in discussions of rappers before Drake. That’s not my opinion, I literally lived it and am giving you multiple examples but you are one of the most stubborn people to disagree with so you’ll probably somehow find a way to keep disagreeing
Didn't the internet constantly call him Mr. 42k or some s*** like that?
Thug "not selling" was definitely a topic.
I don't think the audience cared AS MUCH back then about Jadakiss not selling the same way they did back when Thug wasn't selling.
That's because you and everyone else misconstruing my statement think I mean DRAKE himself made hip hop about sales lol. I said his fanbase. Otherwise, I agree with what you're saying bruh
shouldn’t a millennial know that s***? maybe you mean a zoomer
Young millennials mainly got into rap when Wayne and Kanye were at their peaks so no...not really.
Most niggas here didn't even know that 50 almost titled Curtis "Soundscan Killa" until he had that battle with Ye.
50, Diddy, and Hov birthed the sales obsession in rap.
critics wanna mention when they miss when KTT was about the passion?
motherfucker if they did then @proper and @YoungNastyShawty would be platinum lol.
Ktt don’t like music until it’s very popular.
Ktt don’t like music until it’s very popular.
or until it's controversy behind it
Do y'all think Hip-hop being about sales is a recent trend?
It predates the internet.
ANY genre worth anything will be about sales. It's cute to act like sales don't mean anything but the moment your record gets put out for sale, it becomes about sales.
I just seen a 95' interview w/pac where he is s***ting on bad boy...
because they went platinum way quicker and didn't have to do 1,000 remixes to get there.
It's been there.
Niggas who's favs not box office always gotta make it like it's not about sales. But it really is
what other platforms are having discussions like this?
stan twitter lmao.
But yeah you could tell this thread was finna get stupid straight from the OP.
It reads like a young music fan who actually WASNT around or was still a little kid back then.
Young millennials mainly got into rap when Wayne and Kanye were at their peaks so no...not really.
Most niggas here didn't even know that 50 almost titled Curtis "Soundscan Killa" until he had that battle with Ye.
50, Diddy, and Hov birthed the sales obsession in rap.
No they didn't. It predates them 100%