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  • May 15, 2021
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    Daveacee9

    Facts and when he sold the 12 million that s*** boosted his ego by alot, I remember back in 2004 that nigga was reading ashanti sells on the radio clowning her for selling less than her previous album

    Exactly.

    One thing I will say about 50, though, is he still stayed rapping mostly about street/grimy s*** or life related stuff for the most part with exceptions like "I Get Money" and he became more introspective after 07.

    He just used to sales talk to start WWE style beefs with other rappers.

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  • May 15, 2021
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    Dre and Jimmy with Eminem

    it was in the "bling bling era" too that they pushed Eminem, with all the newsmedia and popculture focus in the late 90s the market was already growing sofast

    nobody sold like Eminem before, not LL, not Rakim, not NWA, not Wu-Tang, not even Pac, Biggie, Nas or Jay Z

    then Dre, Jimmy and Em did it again with 50 Cent and at that same time Jay Z had built up the Roc to where people were calling him the most successful rapper

    then Birdman focused Weezy after Hot Boys and once The Carter 3 sold 1 million physicals in first week it pretty much certified hip-hop as the most dominant genre in music

  • May 15, 2021

    At this point it may as well be about sales because god knows this generation is lacking in skills.

  • May 15, 2021

    Hov and 50

  • May 15, 2021
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    Bobby_96

    Exactly.

    One thing I will say about 50, though, is he still stayed rapping mostly about street/grimy s*** or life related stuff for the most part with exceptions like "I Get Money" and he became more introspective after 07.

    He just used to sales talk to start WWE style beefs with other rappers.

    Yeah he only brought up sells against his enemies, he wasn’t causally going around flaunting his sells success

  • May 15, 2021

    The Marshall Mathers LP sold 1.78 million copies in its first week, which made it one of the fastest-selling studio albums in the United States. The album sold twice as much as the previous hip hop record holder for first week sales in the US, which was Snoop Dogg's 1993 album Doggystyle.

  • May 15, 2021
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    Daveacee9

    Yeah he only brought up sells against his enemies, he wasn’t causally going around flaunting his sells success

    he literally challenged Kanye to a sell-off and then lost which was 50 Cent's 2nd classic album and he didnt really see much greater commercial success in his music after even though Curtis is a classic and sold a lot it didnt outperform The Massacre

  • May 15, 2021
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    Wanna know how much s*** has changed around here? lol watch this

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  • May 15, 2021
    Smacked Voodoo

    Sales talk is for fans of popstars. If you talking sales about hip-hop artists you a loser forreal.

  • May 15, 2021
    mr get dough

    Do you not know who 50 cent is OP?

    Fr, that was 90% of his disses or flexes in both song and interview. That's why he was cooked once he couldn't sell triple play numbers anymore

  • May 15, 2021
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    skrt

    There was a time when it was all about quality. Dropping a great project that your peers and fans love and see as timeless.

    I think it was Wayne during Carter 3 era selling a million first week. That was crazy but it showed people that it was possible for a hood rapper to do it as big as Eminem.

    You heard of 50? Or even Pac who was doing great even while in prison?

  • May 15, 2021

    the only answer here is 50

  • Hip hop always been about numbers tbh. Hov used it to go at P, PAC used sales as a shot. 50 is the one who made it big in his prime and I’d say the Ye vs 50 beef is what caused this new age excitement with sales.

  • May 15, 2021
    El Nigga

    Wanna know how much s*** has changed around here? lol watch this

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTzZsIMrpOE

    BIG voice "shit done changed"

  • May 15, 2021
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    cigaM

    Dre and Jimmy with Eminem

    it was in the "bling bling era" too that they pushed Eminem, with all the newsmedia and popculture focus in the late 90s the market was already growing sofast

    nobody sold like Eminem before, not LL, not Rakim, not NWA, not Wu-Tang, not even Pac, Biggie, Nas or Jay Z

    then Dre, Jimmy and Em did it again with 50 Cent and at that same time Jay Z had built up the Roc to where people were calling him the most successful rapper

    then Birdman focused Weezy after Hot Boys and once The Carter 3 sold 1 million physicals in first week it pretty much certified hip-hop as the most dominant genre in music

    Underrated answer.

    Interscope definitely played a big role in turning hip hop into a more marketable/mainstream genre compared to the 90's which lead to more emphasis on sales and charts.

  • May 15, 2021
    Heatwaves

    never thought about it like this

    dont start to pls

  • May 15, 2021
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    drake stans ruined hip-hop
    THATS a fact

  • May 15, 2021
    Reformed

    Drake killed hip hop

    artists used to put a lot more effort and experiment more on music

    than Drake just comes in making the most generic music imaginable and kills. Taught rappers to never try again.

    so corny

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    drake stans ruined hip-hop
    THATS a fact

  • May 15, 2021

    Social media and Stan culture..

  • May 15, 2021
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    Drake had some contributions to this argument, but it's mostly his stans on here or on social media.

    Let's be real here

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    Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer
    Then Eminem, Hov, 50 Cent
    Now Drake

  • May 15, 2021
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    LaSean
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    Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer
    Then Eminem, Hov, 50 Cent
    Now Drake

    Vanilla Ice and Hammer were considered pop fads and clowned by a lot of rappers back then so I wouldn't include them.

    I'd say LL Cool J started the sales talk going that far back.

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