My Turn

12mo

What made up stat is this?

Swell

12mo

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How exactly does a smart contract cut out the middleman l, in this case the streaming platform , when they’re the ones that still determine the clause, be it in code or written form
open sea still has a service fee they can increase at will

nicobarret

12mo

anyone involved in a creation can automatically receive revenue splits for every stream and less disputes about not receiving the proper pay. Labels can still do what they do and it'll actually be easier for them not having to do the work that's automated now like having to have someone call up 25 people for sample clearances. all percentages and contracts will be transparent in code that executes on the blockchain to automatically pay people so less disputes with artists. Not sure if I answered what you're specifically thinking

My Turn

12mo

no one using that scam site u shilling for

most signed artists use official sites by label to sell merch.

repeat streams tend to not count because that could easily be fraud

seling tickets direct to consumer is not easy either especially on big tours

everything you said has already been thought about

voriox

12mo

but ideally labels can be completely shut out because they’re completely useless to the system now and are nothing but boomer era parasites. i think some ppl think of labels as an inevitability but they and really the music industry as it exists today really hasn’t been around that long and could absolutely change into something that doesn’t resemble anything we’ve ever seen. hell I think that’s already inevitable and they’re just kicking and screaming on their way to inevitable demise

My Turn

12mo

Labels do a lot more than you think. They can give artists that push they need to fully hit mainstream, they also can fund projects upfront, playlisting, marketing, radio etc.

nicobarret

12mo

Smaller established artists like deadmau5 already use Audius and swear by it as being heavensent but rappers and pop singers aren't even thinking that direction so clearly someone is using them and clearly it hasn't been thought about or else you'd see their albums on there in addition to being on Spotify and Apple

"Most signed artists use official sites by label to sell merch" Uhhh okay? Wow that's a really good argument against my point good job! Most artists sell merch on their website and my point is if you don't want to cut 20% with a middle man you can still use the same site you use without having to go through some of those payment vendors. I've seen a lot of people sell things on platforms like ourZora and keep 100% of the payment, get it instantly to their wallet on the blockchain instead of waiting days for confirmations and approvals. Both labels and the artists would agree that splitting from 100% is better than splitting from the 80% left from paying a 3rd party so how are you refuting me in any way

Yes I know certain streams aren't counted bc of bots but I saw PERSONALLY that I watched an ENTIRE VIDEO MULTIPLE TIMES with NO BOTLIKE BEHAVIOR and THE VIEWS WENT UP CORRECTLY THEN ALL REMOVED THE NEXT DAY. That means their DETECTION ALGORITHM IS SUBPAR which HURTS THE ARTISTS but they don't care to scrutinize how theyre getting paid. That's not just an "oh well" thing that's a big deal. Youtube can really do anything and claim that they lowered the views bc of suspicious activity and they're incentive is to make more profit so instead of making an actual legit algorithm they can just keep it that way and minimize how much they have to pay people because why would they care to get it right if none of these artists are even asking how the views are counted and if it's proper.

Seling tickets direct to consumer is as easy as hiring a few software developers to put them on your website instead of going through ricketmaster. I'm a coder it's not hard

Thank you for adding nothing to the discussion but dumb points. Don't see how i'm shilling a scam site when you literally pay nothing to upload music nor stream it idiot how can it be a scam

nicobarret

12mo

Smaller established artists like deadmau5 already use Audius and swear by it as being heavensent but rappers and pop singers aren't even thinking that direction so clearly someone is using them and clearly it hasn't been thought about or else you'd see their albums on there in addition to being on Spotify and Apple

"Most signed artists use official sites by label to sell merch" Uhhh okay? Wow that's a really good argument against my point good job! Most artists sell merch on their website and my point is if you don't want to cut 20% with a middle man you can still use the same site you use without having to go through some of those payment vendors. I've seen a lot of people sell things on platforms like ourZora and keep 100% of the payment, get it instantly to their wallet on the blockchain instead of waiting days for confirmations and approvals. Both labels and the artists would agree that splitting from 100% is better than splitting from the 80% left from paying a 3rd party so how are you refuting me in any way

Yes I know certain streams aren't counted bc of bots but I saw PERSONALLY that I watched an ENTIRE VIDEO MULTIPLE TIMES with NO BOTLIKE BEHAVIOR and THE VIEWS WENT UP CORRECTLY THEN ALL REMOVED THE NEXT DAY. That means their DETECTION ALGORITHM IS SUBPAR which HURTS THE ARTISTS but they don't care to scrutinize how theyre getting paid. That's not just an "oh well" thing that's a big deal. Youtube can really do anything and claim that they lowered the views bc of suspicious activity and they're incentive is to make more profit so instead of making an actual legit algorithm they can just keep it that way and minimize how much they have to pay people because why would they care to get it right if none of these artists are even asking how the views are counted and if it's proper.

Seling tickets direct to consumer is as easy as hiring a few software developers to put them on your website instead of going through ricketmaster. I'm a coder it's not hard

Thank you for adding nothing to the discussion but dumb points. Don't see how i'm shilling a scam site when you literally pay nothing to upload music nor stream it idiot how can it be a scam

Swell

12mo

How exactly does a smart contract cut out the middleman l, in this case the streaming platform , when they’re the ones that still determine the clause, be it in code or written form
open sea still has a service fee they can increase at will

nicobarret

12mo

I thought the "sure you're right" was sarcastic and I thought you said go more into it my b.

I think for AI it will get cheaper and cheaper to run with less GPU power until we can run big models on our phones but for something like bitcoin it's relative competition meaning even if GPUs get more powerful you'll still need to buy more to compete with other miners so that might be a problem but (radical opinion) after all our insights from hyperadvanced AI i think we'll be able to reverse global warming by that point or at least fork bitcoin to use a different validation method

nicobarret

12mo

Smaller established artists like deadmau5 already use Audius and swear by it as being heavensent but rappers and pop singers aren't even thinking that direction so clearly someone is using them and clearly it hasn't been thought about or else you'd see their albums on there in addition to being on Spotify and Apple

"Most signed artists use official sites by label to sell merch" Uhhh okay? Wow that's a really good argument against my point good job! Most artists sell merch on their website and my point is if you don't want to cut 20% with a middle man you can still use the same site you use without having to go through some of those payment vendors. I've seen a lot of people sell things on platforms like ourZora and keep 100% of the payment, get it instantly to their wallet on the blockchain instead of waiting days for confirmations and approvals. Both labels and the artists would agree that splitting from 100% is better than splitting from the 80% left from paying a 3rd party so how are you refuting me in any way

Yes I know certain streams aren't counted bc of bots but I saw PERSONALLY that I watched an ENTIRE VIDEO MULTIPLE TIMES with NO BOTLIKE BEHAVIOR and THE VIEWS WENT UP CORRECTLY THEN ALL REMOVED THE NEXT DAY. That means their DETECTION ALGORITHM IS SUBPAR which HURTS THE ARTISTS but they don't care to scrutinize how theyre getting paid. That's not just an "oh well" thing that's a big deal. Youtube can really do anything and claim that they lowered the views bc of suspicious activity and they're incentive is to make more profit so instead of making an actual legit algorithm they can just keep it that way and minimize how much they have to pay people because why would they care to get it right if none of these artists are even asking how the views are counted and if it's proper.

Seling tickets direct to consumer is as easy as hiring a few software developers to put them on your website instead of going through ricketmaster. I'm a coder it's not hard

Thank you for adding nothing to the discussion but dumb points. Don't see how i'm shilling a scam site when you literally pay nothing to upload music nor stream it idiot how can it be a scam

My Turn

12mo

Nobody knows who that is ☠️
you are promoting an nft site

Repeat streams arnt counted because people could just loop the song year round. Dont know why you dont understand that. They cant have everyone just loop songs on repeat.

If it was that easy to put millions of tickets and not go through ticketmaster people would do it.

OHMNI

12mo

Consumers encourage all of this look at music section

insertcoolnamehere

12mo

@op said all this to promote sound.xyz lol

nicobarret

12mo

I literally said that as a 2nd example after saying Audius 1st and wouldn't it be funnier if you said I was promoting the 1st option? but haha so funny get them jokes in my boi

nicobarret

12mo

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He sold out Sofi Stadium as the person above this said but yeah ok no one knows him.
I'm not promoting any site I was giving an example but the fact that you're stuck on the word "NFT" calling it a scam after I told you clearly you don't have to pay anything. The "NFT" part just means that the song you upload is recorded on the blockchain. And therefore payments to and from your wallet can be viewed on the blockchain as opposed to not being able to see if you're being shorted by your label or something paying you the wrong amount

Yes that's why youtube has captchas and there's more ways of verifying someone is a legit viewer other than just removing views without the person's knowledge after the fact. How is it not hard to understand that youtube can technically put some bullshit in their algorithm to remove more streams than they should or could do anything really and say say "oh well"

Millions of tickets? A few hundred for an artist's show on a site is doable and people don't do it bc it's easy and convenient to go through an already established site and also these labels and venues have ties with ticketmaster. But some do do it, there's a lot of shows and events that don't go through ticketmaster

insertcoolnamehere

12mo

It usually be niggas that aint artists that wanna tell artists what to do and how to do it. Direct to consumer ticket aint easy fam

nicobarret

12mo

Smaller established artists like deadmau5 already use Audius and swear by it as being heavensent but rappers and pop singers aren't even thinking that direction so clearly someone is using them and clearly it hasn't been thought about or else you'd see their albums on there in addition to being on Spotify and Apple

"Most signed artists use official sites by label to sell merch" Uhhh okay? Wow that's a really good argument against my point good job! Most artists sell merch on their website and my point is if you don't want to cut 20% with a middle man you can still use the same site you use without having to go through some of those payment vendors. I've seen a lot of people sell things on platforms like ourZora and keep 100% of the payment, get it instantly to their wallet on the blockchain instead of waiting days for confirmations and approvals. Both labels and the artists would agree that splitting from 100% is better than splitting from the 80% left from paying a 3rd party so how are you refuting me in any way

Yes I know certain streams aren't counted bc of bots but I saw PERSONALLY that I watched an ENTIRE VIDEO MULTIPLE TIMES with NO BOTLIKE BEHAVIOR and THE VIEWS WENT UP CORRECTLY THEN ALL REMOVED THE NEXT DAY. That means their DETECTION ALGORITHM IS SUBPAR which HURTS THE ARTISTS but they don't care to scrutinize how theyre getting paid. That's not just an "oh well" thing that's a big deal. Youtube can really do anything and claim that they lowered the views bc of suspicious activity and they're incentive is to make more profit so instead of making an actual legit algorithm they can just keep it that way and minimize how much they have to pay people because why would they care to get it right if none of these artists are even asking how the views are counted and if it's proper.

Seling tickets direct to consumer is as easy as hiring a few software developers to put them on your website instead of going through ricketmaster. I'm a coder it's not hard

Thank you for adding nothing to the discussion but dumb points. Don't see how i'm shilling a scam site when you literally pay nothing to upload music nor stream it idiot how can it be a scam