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  • Nov 14, 2021

    I understand why the super rich would

    But why do everyday people WANT to pay for college

    Why do people WANT to pay for Health Care

    Why do people WANT to pay to have a roof over their head

    Why do people WANT to pay for clean water and food

    What am I missing here, what do you gain from going against your own self-interest

  • Nov 14, 2021
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    most everyday people don't want to pay for these things, they just think they have to, and that the world has to always work this way

    in america, people tend to not think outside of capitalism, they can't conceive anything other than it

  • Nov 14, 2021

    No one wants to pay for anything. But food, water(to an extent), housing(not basic housing) should all be things we have to pay for.

  • Nov 14, 2021
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    Null_

    I understand why the super rich would

    But why do everyday people WANT to pay for college

    Why do people WANT to pay for Health Care

    Why do people WANT to pay to have a roof over their head

    Why do people WANT to pay for clean water and food

    What am I missing here, what do you gain from going against your own self-interest

    you're thinking about it wrong. people largely view things not within a vacuum (even if they think they are) but rather within a web of interconnecting interactions; the reason people (really in the US specifically) think things should have a price tag is largely a***ogous to the fabled independent strong man, the type who "rejects handouts out of personal pride" and "pulls himself up by the bootstraps by hardwork and independence alone", who is conceptually pathologized in myth in the american mind. People want things to have a price tag because people want things to confer meaning attached to what the price represents; it's the same reason you see american s***ting on eastern european housing projects whereas you go to LA and there's meth addicted homeless camps every block and that's somehow fine by comparison. If anyone can get a $100 filet mignon, then no one wants that filet mignon anymore, because sure it tastes great, but the status it confers is no longer extrapolate - you can see a microcosm of this phenomena all over american culture; the idea of "hidden gems" or "subversive cultures" all stem from this. Americans claim to believe in meritocracy but by and large they actual believe in aristocracy. This affects even though who often claim to want to abolish the system domestically which causes inequality, hence why you end up with large swathes of politically minded individuals who simply want to encroach on and socialize aristocracy rather than abolish it.

  • Nov 14, 2021
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    krishna bound

    you're thinking about it wrong. people largely view things not within a vacuum (even if they think they are) but rather within a web of interconnecting interactions; the reason people (really in the US specifically) think things should have a price tag is largely a***ogous to the fabled independent strong man, the type who "rejects handouts out of personal pride" and "pulls himself up by the bootstraps by hardwork and independence alone", who is conceptually pathologized in myth in the american mind. People want things to have a price tag because people want things to confer meaning attached to what the price represents; it's the same reason you see american s***ting on eastern european housing projects whereas you go to LA and there's meth addicted homeless camps every block and that's somehow fine by comparison. If anyone can get a $100 filet mignon, then no one wants that filet mignon anymore, because sure it tastes great, but the status it confers is no longer extrapolate - you can see a microcosm of this phenomena all over american culture; the idea of "hidden gems" or "subversive cultures" all stem from this. Americans claim to believe in meritocracy but by and large they actual believe in aristocracy. This affects even though who often claim to want to abolish the system domestically which causes inequality, hence why you end up with large swathes of politically minded individuals who simply want to encroach on and socialize aristocracy rather than abolish it.

    So basically it’s pride and ego

  • Nov 14, 2021
    Null_

    So basically it’s pride and ego

    I don't know if i'd individualize it as much to say everyone is just overly prideful, but i think on a more collective level we live in a very prideful and egotistical society and things like shaming are incorrectly displaced. You're more likely to be shamed and made fun of for taking food stamps as a single mother than you are for being a multi-millionaire exploiting tax loopholes.

  • Nov 14, 2021
    Null_

    So basically it’s pride and ego

    Resources are scarce having to pay for things helps to reduce waste.

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    Because people should be compensated for the work they do

  • Nov 15, 2021
    krishna bound

    you're thinking about it wrong. people largely view things not within a vacuum (even if they think they are) but rather within a web of interconnecting interactions; the reason people (really in the US specifically) think things should have a price tag is largely a***ogous to the fabled independent strong man, the type who "rejects handouts out of personal pride" and "pulls himself up by the bootstraps by hardwork and independence alone", who is conceptually pathologized in myth in the american mind. People want things to have a price tag because people want things to confer meaning attached to what the price represents; it's the same reason you see american s***ting on eastern european housing projects whereas you go to LA and there's meth addicted homeless camps every block and that's somehow fine by comparison. If anyone can get a $100 filet mignon, then no one wants that filet mignon anymore, because sure it tastes great, but the status it confers is no longer extrapolate - you can see a microcosm of this phenomena all over american culture; the idea of "hidden gems" or "subversive cultures" all stem from this. Americans claim to believe in meritocracy but by and large they actual believe in aristocracy. This affects even though who often claim to want to abolish the system domestically which causes inequality, hence why you end up with large swathes of politically minded individuals who simply want to encroach on and socialize aristocracy rather than abolish it.

    they got the jeffersonian yeoman dealing with $4/gallon gas and... "shrinkflation," yet still abstractly more worried about SOCIALISM

    "clown world," as the kids say

  • Nov 15, 2021
    math fifty

    Because people should be compensated for the work they do

    This mf thinks when you use the road for free those roads were built with slave labor

  • Nov 15, 2021
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    One of the reasons is bc like u can see in that post i quoted above, most ppl have a toddler level understanding of the economy

  • Nov 15, 2021
    math fifty

    Because people should be compensated for the work they do

    Much agreed comrade. Pay the workers and expropriate the capitalist owners skimming on top.

  • Nov 15, 2021
    Null_

    I understand why the super rich would

    But why do everyday people WANT to pay for college

    Why do people WANT to pay for Health Care

    Why do people WANT to pay to have a roof over their head

    Why do people WANT to pay for clean water and food

    What am I missing here, what do you gain from going against your own self-interest

    You gotta understand you are working against ~200 years of propaganda

  • Nov 15, 2021
    Scratchin Mamba

    One of the reasons is bc like u can see in that post i quoted above, most ppl have a toddler level understanding of the economy

    Seems like your understanding of the economy is fetus level then.

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  • Nov 15, 2021
    necromancer

    most everyday people don't want to pay for these things, they just think they have to, and that the world has to always work this way

    in america, people tend to not think outside of capitalism, they can't conceive anything other than it

    Facts

  • Nov 15, 2021
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    who pays the doctors nurses staff etcin a hospital?
    who pays for teachers staff etc in a school
    who builds houses for free?

  • Nov 15, 2021
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    BIGGWAVE

    who pays the doctors nurses staff etcin a hospital?
    who pays for teachers staff etc in a school
    who builds houses for free?

    Man discovers the concept of government spending

  • Nov 15, 2021
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Man discovers the concept of government spending

    so you cool with taxes increasing so that s*** could be "free" right?

  • Nov 15, 2021

    I think a lot of people who think taxes will raise are completely unaware of how much is spent on war

  • Nov 15, 2021

    Capitalism isn’t going anywhere

    Instead of fantasizing about what could be, spend that energy figuring out how you can play the game to the best of your ability to live whatever life you want for yourself.

    But that’s harder than complaining so go off yall

  • Nov 15, 2021
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    BIGGWAVE

    so you cool with taxes increasing so that s*** could be "free" right?

    Tax the rich

  • Nov 15, 2021
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Tax the rich

    ...ok

  • Nov 15, 2021
    BIGGWAVE

    ...ok

    Yezzir