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  • LaFleur

    The whole first page took the bait and ran with it

    me after baiting music sxn

  • Aug 2, 2023
    LaFleur

    That's cap though. Utopia's highs are nowhere near Donda's ones

    Music is subjective

  • Aug 2, 2023

    wouldnt say that utopia s***s all over donda at all.. i mean that future bounce song is nice but it also has no structure. keeps edging and leading to nothing really. still love the base idea but where did the DO YOU LIKE THE WAY? LIKE THE WAY IT SOUNDS? female vocal go...

  • Aug 2, 2023
    LaFleur

    That's cap though. Utopia's highs are nowhere near Donda's ones

    Agreed.

  • Aug 3, 2023

    I think they were just upset cause there was a whole bunch of folks saying "this is the best Kanye album in years" "Travis made a better Kanye album then Kanye" s*** like that

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    v12

    ironic when all ur threads are dogshit

  • Aug 3, 2023
    treeman

    Not even top 5 on donda not even better than telekinesis, even future sounds with Kanye mumble is better than come to life

    Found the worst take on KTT

    Ban this nigga

  • v12

    ironic when all ur threads are dogshit

  • Aug 3, 2023
    LaFleur

    he has the nerve to talk about ppl’s threads i don’t even like this one but he can’t f***ing talk down on anyone worst user here

  • Aug 3, 2023
    WHaaaT

    It’s actually nice to hear these songs without Kanye stinking them up vocally idk what happened to his voice but it sounds like he’s struggling to breath on every verse post-2016

    i honestly think it’s just cause he’s freestyling most of the time or rapping some lyrics that were given to him and he’s only doing one take

    all over donda you can hear his vocals literally being spliced together from multiple botched takes and even the reference track from someone else

    i think kanye having less time due to his business outside of music being so successful drastically effected the care and time he was able to put into his own stuff. like on off the grid you can feel he actually sat down and put time into perfecting his delivery on that verse. most other verses are recorded on a phone and poorly edited together

  • Aug 3, 2023

    Trust me I’m not upset rather have Travis drop them then them never see the light of day

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    tbh i always wished ye retired after tlop so he could have a truly perfect discog with all classics.

    ye was dope but it had too many misses for it to only be 20 mins, probably largely because it was made in a week

    jik was just poorly done and inconsistent to me.

    donda had moments of brilliance surrounded by filler, almost as if he was having trouble deciphering what was really essential. and so much of the production was stripped back to where it didn’t feel like minimalism, it just felt undercooked. remember one of those listening parties where almost NONE of the songs had drums? lmao

    i’m glad he’s giving other artists these songs and letting them take them where they need to go

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    tbh i always wished ye retired after tlop so he could have a truly perfect discog with all classics.

    ye was dope but it had too many misses for it to only be 20 mins, probably largely because it was made in a week

    jik was just poorly done and inconsistent to me.

    donda had moments of brilliance surrounded by filler, almost as if he was having trouble deciphering what was really essential. and so much of the production was stripped back to where it didn’t feel like minimalism, it just felt undercooked. remember one of those listening parties where almost NONE of the songs had drums? lmao

    i’m glad he’s giving other artists these songs and letting them take them where they need to go

    He's always given and taken songs from others.

  • Aug 3, 2023
    WHaaaT

    It’s actually nice to hear these songs without Kanye stinking them up vocally idk what happened to his voice but it sounds like he’s struggling to breath on every verse post-2016

    High key mad I never caught how different his rap voice has been for the better part of a decade now

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    SpiderMan

    He's always given and taken songs from others.

    that’s a fact, and i’m especially glad he’s giving songs away now because i don’t trust his ear anymore. coming from a stan since the freshman adjustment tapes

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    willcherry

    that’s a fact, and i’m especially glad he’s giving songs away now because i don’t trust his ear anymore. coming from a stan since the freshman adjustment tapes

    I feel like you should probably just stop listening to his music.
    Much easier than him stopping to make music when he wants to express himself through that and with millions clamoring for it.

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    SpiderMan

    I feel like you should probably just stop listening to his music.
    Much easier than him stopping to make music when he wants to express himself through that and with millions clamoring for it.

    i’m saying for the sake of his discography i wish he stopped releasing albums, that doesn’t mean he can’t express himself through music or that it’s a big deal that he’s still going.

    it’s okay to just let the criticism be what it is lol

  • Aug 3, 2023

    There is no song on Utopia better than Come to Life. In fact idk if he has a better song in his entire discography while that would be a top 5 kanye song at best.

    There wasn’t any reason to try and slight kanye/donda.

    I think most people just expected something more unique from Travis.

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    willcherry

    i’m saying for the sake of his discography i wish he stopped releasing albums, that doesn’t mean he can’t express himself through music or that it’s a big deal that he’s still going.

    it’s okay to just let the criticism be what it is lol

    I'm sure the artist should have control of what his discography is and it should be his tension how it's perceived rather than random internet users.
    You aren't criticizing you are just obsessing over perceived perfection in his discography or some s***. I will gladly take 8/10 albums if it means I get a few supposed 10/10 songs on them.

  • Aug 3, 2023

    also we’ll see but i don’t believe ye wants to continue to release albums

    i could definitely see him never dropping again because

    • no label budget
    • no pressure or contractual obligation from a label
    • no incentive or desire to tour new music
    • donda 2 stem player fell apart which hurts core fans trust in spending money on you
    • streaming doesn’t pay enough
    • hiring somebody to clear beats, samples and features is an added hassle
    • antisemitism debacle is too big to overcome

    for as expensive as a kanye album is to make, idk if he wants to pay that, knowing he doesn’t want to tour and his bankability is lowered

  • why does any observation now = mad lol

    it’s a good album but it’s fair to notice that a good chunk of it is Ye leaks and some songs are just remakes of Yeezus tracks lol

  • Utopia>>>>and Kanye solo post TLOP.

    Ye don’t give a s*** about music anymore which is why his fanbase is salty when his associated acts drop music and don’t include him.

  • Aug 3, 2023
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    SpiderMan

    I'm sure the artist should have control of what his discography is and it should be his tension how it's perceived rather than random internet users.
    You aren't criticizing you are just obsessing over perceived perfection in his discography or some s***. I will gladly take 8/10 albums if it means I get a few supposed 10/10 songs on them.

    i literally gave genuine criticisms of the post tlop albums lol

    and i’m saying what i would like for the sake of his legacy, of course we all want artists to have creative control. but we can also wish that certain things were better and talk about how they could have been better. it’s just dialogue about the art form, nobody is tryna put cuffs on the man

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    Stans are so annoying in this day and age

    With social media they can groupthink like never before

    Before it was all good vibes and now it’s all war

  • Aug 3, 2023
    willcherry

    i’m saying for the sake of his discography i wish he stopped releasing albums, that doesn’t mean he can’t express himself through music or that it’s a big deal that he’s still going.

    it’s okay to just let the criticism be what it is lol

    Yeah it just sucks cause Kanye can still make really incredible music which is proven from leaks and certain songs but he just lacks the drive to fully realize that potential anymore. I agree that he should've just quit awhile ago cause it's clear he can't give his music the attention it deserves. Something changed after that 2016 breakdown he had, he ain't been the same since

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