May 25, 2023·1 reply
Rock MudsonHe always came off like a revivalist act. Kendrick wasn't. He veered hard away from someone like Game who was just eating off the legacy of the west coast. J Cole blowing up is still a mystery to me tho.
Krit could never be as big as the guys he was channeling like Luda
Cole being the first signee to Roc helped his interest & he was a hip hop purest so it was refreshing
Cole actually doesn’t get the credit he deserves as a marketing tycoon
The dollar & a dream tour did wonders for him early in his career
He already established a cult like fanbase so all he needed was the hits
Water Giver đź’§May 25, 2023
swagchamp2617Probably because he couldn’t make a commercial hit
- Water Giver đź’§May 25, 2023
- Water Giver đź’§May 25, 2023
Anyways Krits debut is DEF NOT BETTER LMAOOO.
Return of 4Eva is a classic tho and a top 1p mixtape of all time, yes that is better than them two but Krit has always fallen off in the album department until it was too late lmao.
His first 3 or so albums are mediocre to decent. It wasnt until the laye 2010s when his albums finally became really good but it was way too late by then.
His strengths was ALWAYS his mixtape bag which a good amount of them are album level and vetter than a lot of niggas albums.
Yoi dont have to lie to make a man greater when he is already a great
- May 25, 2023
From the outside looking in it seemed like aside from whatever label differences his aesthetic and sound was very old school southern at a time when the trap s*** was at its peak. But that’s what also made him different
If he did like a project or two back in 2012-2013 where he leaned super heavy into the southern trap aesthetic, videos, features and sound at the time, he could have roped it all together and his career would be totally different but he shouldn’t have had to do that.
BLACK ⛧May 25, 2023yall drop this thread annually
- BLACK ⛧May 25, 2023math fifty
Doesnt have mainstream appeal like those two
4IAMLT > Cole discog tho
I love that album but chill out
- Water Giver đź’§May 25, 2023
Bring me back to the time Kendrick Lamar, ASAP Rocky, Pusha T, Big Krit & Rick Ross was my current day top 5
Hms to Joey Badass, Schoolboy Q, 2Chainz, Drake and Future.
My early to mid 2010s top 10 wattba
May 25, 2023hashteai guess we are just ignoring the fact that all his commercial albums were average compared to the "top 3"
this combined w a lack of standout singles akin to Work Out or Swimming Pools is the real answer
Kenig đź’May 25, 20231 good mixtape
1 classic album
but not enough- BLACK ⛧May 25, 2023
Jim HalpertEvery krit album is better than every Cole album.
lol
- May 25, 2023
Apology Men MusicK.R.I.T. to me is the biggest example of why the "big 3" era was so detrimental to hip hop as a whole. Its like if you werent those 3 niggas you was autonatically seen as lesser than even if that wasnt true most of the time (e.g. wale tbh)
Cause I always thought that as far as singing, rapping, content, flow, that K.R.I.T. was always just better than Cole. Cole is great but like...The Vent, Lions and Lambs, Kings Blues, and Bury Me In Gold? Krit just an alien bruh.
I think the difference is that Cole was at the right place at the right time (and you can argue had 'more appeal') and was given WAAAAY more grace after his flop of a debut versus K.R.I.T.'s flop of a debut (It always felt like after Live from The Underground, which the label f***ed up, he never could shake that 'stench' away. Even though both Cadillactica and 4Eva is a Mighty Long Time are both perfect albums, the latter being a top 5 rap album of last decade) and it just always was one of the biggest stains of the big 3 era to me that KRIT couldn't get his deserved shine.
And that s*** just ain't fair especially for his discography (Return of 4Eva is still the best mixtape of the 2010s.)
At the time moreso than now due to Kanye and Wayne and then Drake it seemed like that “big 3” designation came from the concept of you being able to do EVERYTHING in rap from having classic or great albums to the mainstream visibility bullshit to the sales to the radio. Cole Kendrick Drake had all of the above (probably not coincidentally because they were all affiliated with niggas who were previously in the Big 3-5 spots or had something to do with the niggas who were).
If a rapper was too eccentric or stylistically niche to be that (KRIT Tyler) or seemed like they were on a lower tier of the sales/mainstream s*** (Sean Wale) then that X’ed them out of the discussion. All for Carti 21 Yachty Uzi Kodak etc to come out and now none of that matters for artists after them lol
May 25, 2023he makes mids
- May 25, 2023
k dog 99He was on Kush & OJ and toured with Wiz in 2010, really not that much later than the other guys.
Glass House
- May 25, 2023·1 replyExperiment626
Cole being the first signee to Roc helped his interest & he was a hip hop purest so it was refreshing
Cole actually doesn’t get the credit he deserves as a marketing tycoon
The dollar & a dream tour did wonders for him early in his career
He already established a cult like fanbase so all he needed was the hits
Yeah I just mean s*** like No Role Modelz being a big song is hilarious
His debut was a huge fumble. I love Work Out but people called it a weak Ye flip. Mr Nice Watch was not it. Etc. Really kind of did his own thing, not from a major region, somehow still clicked
May 25, 2023
May 25, 2023·1 reply
Undunhe had the better mixtapes and arguably the better debut if not 2nd best
his debut album was a major step down from his mixtapes bro what is this revisionist history
May 25, 2023hit records
May 25, 2023When it was time to step up he stumbled it’s a classic tale in show biz. He’ll always be cool to me tho
- May 25, 2023Rock Mudson
Yeah I just mean s*** like No Role Modelz being a big song is hilarious
His debut was a huge fumble. I love Work Out but people called it a weak Ye flip. Mr Nice Watch was not it. Etc. Really kind of did his own thing, not from a major region, somehow still clicked
Oh I got you
Yeah his debut was disappointing I remember. adopting NYC helped him a lot tho, something Krit couldn’t do
- May 25, 2023·2 repliesHimothee
his debut album was a major step down from his mixtapes bro what is this revisionist history
after FNL, his debut was dookie in comparison
after we found out that was supposed to be the album too
If FNL was his debut his career trajectory probably would’ve been different
Wouldn’t had felt the need to drop BS which we probably would’ve never gotten FHD
- May 26, 2023·1 replyExperiment626
after FNL, his debut was dookie in comparison
after we found out that was supposed to be the album too
If FNL was his debut his career trajectory probably would’ve been different
Wouldn’t had felt the need to drop BS which we probably would’ve never gotten FHD
are you implying fhd is bullshit or that it took him to drop bs in order to redeem himself with fhd?
- May 26, 2023·1 replyChris M
are you implying fhd is bullshit or that it took him to drop bs in order to redeem himself with fhd?
My bad
I’m saying BS came out to try to counter the reception of his debut, whether it worked or not BS had more of a creative direction but that just led him to drop FHD (which was like him coming back to his roots)
If FNL dropped first I’m not sure if he would’ve felt the need to prove anything
- May 26, 2023
A combination of his voice being too country, and probably his lack luster song writing abilities
- May 26, 2023·6 replies
KRIT has never been able to write a song as good as Money Trees or No Role Modelz
