do you not see the parallels to hillary in 2016? i swear people never learn
yall gonna do the same s*** again...

I keep reading this and I can't believe some of the things Bernie Bros genuinely believe. Biden generated historic voter numbers literally 2 days ago. It's wild y'all really think the primary process that Bernie helped create is biased against him and just so you know there is a general election with the electoral college after this

Do you? Biden is a much stronger candidate for 2020 than Hillary in 16. You cannot win the primary with 35 percent of the vote and you cannot win the electoral college when your platform is literally focused on taking jobs from the most important states. People vote their jobs not their morals. The imaginary youth turnout boost of a Bernie candidacy is estimated to at best equal the number of defectors who will never vote for bernie. He is a terrible candidate, the most divisive character in modern political history, has no experience actually delivering policy, would cause the 40 some moderate Dems that won us back the house and possibly saved us from a true unchecked Trump term to lose their seats and fundamentally destroy the Democratic party, re while reigniting the dying Republican party for years to come

the only thing i hear you arguing about is according to the poltiical system of the US (which is a f***ing mess). if you ever want to change that, you cant play by the existing rules and gotta think outside the box.
i never once heard you disagree with what bernies campaign is about, just about his chances of winning. vote with your heart, and not with mathematical calculations.
a lot of the stuff you said about bernie could be about trump, and if trump did it, bernie can too

How is Biden stronger than Hillary?

He’s arguably more Alzheimerzy than sanders

youre totally right about that but i do think he will win senate

Oh yea probably

if biden's the nominee we in for 4 more years of trump

some of yall have no clear grasp of the current political landscape and it shows

Biden is 100% a stronger candidate than Hillary. If he has run 4 years ago he would have been president. People see Hillary as a war criminal that caused Benghazi and Biden as that old guy that was the first black presidents deputy. Whether he’d be a better president is another question tho

going to a bernie sanders concert fundraiser tn, $10 a ticket, a few bands finna be there. should be p cool, hoping to score some free swag

i don't know if it's 100%. you're right that biden has a better current standing than hillary but in 2016 she had some lot of people at a fever pitch. a good part of the democratic party in general was kinda at a high because they thought they were going to steamroll trump (who many perceived as a genuine non-threat), and on top of that they were even excited because they really believed a woman was going to beat trump and become president.

obviously a lot of this hype died down after the election and has really turned into an interesting jadedness bout 2016, and that's partially where the current view of hillary stems from.

biden on the other hand has a pretty lukewarm perception outside of the group you mentioned that views him solely as obama's VP. that role itself isn't even as prized anymore as more of the negative aspects of obama's presidency have made their way to media outlets.

however i do agree that if he would've run in 2016 he probably would've had a great shot in comparison to the other then-candidates

i see sanders getting a good amount of excitement from people, but i'm on the inside of that crowd so i don't know the bigger picture still

Last election, Hillary was more hated than Donald Trump by like half the country and most of the internet. As much as people s*** on joe Biden now, most of the current opposition comes from the fact that he’s boring or almost conservative. People hated hillary because they thought she was dishonest and evil, people dislike Biden because they think he’s lame and not liberal enough. It is true that most people saw hillary as the most likely president, but I didn’t really see many people who liked her as opposed to hated trump. Once again the goal is to defeat trump, and this time, it’s with a candidate that isn’t as despised as Hillary was (also I know you didn’t say this, but I hate when niggas say Hillary lost because she’s a woman. Like no, she probably wouldn’t have even gotten that far if she was a man lol)