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  • Jan 14, 2020
    009

    I understand the "keep grinding" mindset, but fyi that's where people like Bezos want you to keep your attention. Keep staring down working out your pennies while they fleece the neighborhoods we live in.

    control

  • Jan 14, 2020
    Ethic

    @spacecwby @Synopsis

    Although I'm really enjoying this with popcorn rn.
    I think you're talking past each other.
    Jean, I think no one of us have something against people who work hard and contribute real value to society, the problem lies with those who make money based of already amassed wealth through interest, short-term stock market trading (aka casino) or virtual products like bitcoins f.e., creating no real physical value in the process, while envoking inflation of the economy for the rest of us and at the same time avoiding taxes.
    And if you think you shouldn't care about the government, think twice, the government is a representation of solidarity, a societal contract we have all joined. If there is no solidarity anymore what do you think will happen? Those who are less well off will rebel, all the money you have in your account and the status you've achieved will be worth nothing if society becomes unstable.
    Also you have to keep in mind that not everyone has the education nor the opportunities you have and that some of the richess at these billionaires have amassed comes from exploiting people in countries with corrupt governments who don't have the means nor the perspective or input to rise up. The exploit of those people is indirectly funding the prosperity of countries like America and this is in fact an injustice we can not overlook.

    Synopsis, as I already wrote in the Socialism thread, it's also up to us to go out there and educate people through projects f.e. on how they can transform their societies and how they can make a living for themselves. It won't help to deny that the world functioning through a capitalist system, as long as there isn't a global uprising of the whole work force at the same time, which will be very unlikely, the change wont happen. So one of the things we can do is helping those people to rise up in their momentary socio-economic status by giving them the means to do so (f.e. education, access to the market, labour skills, possibilities to realize their ideas) so they can educate themselves, while at the same time teaching them why collectivism is important, so they don't forget why solidarity is a must when they've finally empowered themselves. And yes, it will be a long process.

    Now both of you roast me

    ive been on ktt a long time

    ppl do not want to be educated so its a futile effort

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    ghosting

    Hope you remember this when u stuck at your 40k a year job

    My only fans makes me that in half a day

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    wowza

    My only fans makes me that in half a day

    Post it then.

    Your jokes really aren’t that funny...

  • Jan 14, 2020
    ghosting

    Post it then.

    Your jokes really aren’t that funny...

    I’ma s*** poster the jokes are supposed to stink

  • Jan 14, 2020

    Wait they aren’t THAT funny? 👀 so you think theyre a lil funny? Hehehe

  • Jan 14, 2020

    Uwu 🙈

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    Synopsis

    you realize bezos can buy anything he wants right

    Buying something like a company (in billions) is not the same thing as having billions in cash. "Anything he wants" being what, something worth a million? You can't buy s*** in amazon stock. He has probably 100 mil or less in actual spendable cash on hand for something like donations

  • Jan 14, 2020
    Ethic

    @spacecwby @Synopsis

    Although I'm really enjoying this with popcorn rn.
    I think you're talking past each other.
    Jean, I think no one of us have something against people who work hard and contribute real value to society, the problem lies with those who make money based of already amassed wealth through interest, short-term stock market trading (aka casino) or virtual products like bitcoins f.e., creating no real physical value in the process, while envoking inflation of the economy for the rest of us and at the same time avoiding taxes.
    And if you think you shouldn't care about the government, think twice, the government is a representation of solidarity, a societal contract we have all joined. If there is no solidarity anymore what do you think will happen? Those who are less well off will rebel, all the money you have in your account and the status you've achieved will be worth nothing if society becomes unstable.
    Also you have to keep in mind that not everyone has the education nor the opportunities you have and that some of the richess at these billionaires have amassed comes from exploiting people in countries with corrupt governments who don't have the means nor the perspective or input to rise up. The exploit of those people is indirectly funding the prosperity of countries like America and this is in fact an injustice we can not overlook.

    Synopsis, as I already wrote in the Socialism thread, it's also up to us to go out there and educate people through projects f.e. on how they can transform their societies and how they can make a living for themselves. It won't help to deny that the world functioning through a capitalist system, as long as there isn't a global uprising of the whole work force at the same time, which will be very unlikely, the change wont happen. So one of the things we can do is helping those people to rise up in their momentary socio-economic status by giving them the means to do so (f.e. education, access to the market, labour skills, possibilities to realize their ideas) so they can educate themselves, while at the same time teaching them why collectivism is important, so they don't forget why solidarity is a must when they've finally empowered themselves. And yes, it will be a long process.

    Now both of you roast me

    Nah i feel you and understand exactly what you’re saying you get no roast sir.

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    Bezos makes products that help millions and employs 750,000(!) people. I'd rather people like him and Bill Gates (trying to get rid of malaria) use their money to change the world. This is how we advance society.

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    GIO GIO

    Buying something like a company (in billions) is not the same thing as having billions in cash. "Anything he wants" being what, something worth a million? You can't buy s*** in amazon stock. He has probably 100 mil or less in actual spendable cash on hand for something like donations

    wsj.com/articles/jeff-bezos-buys-fifth-avenue-condo-spread-for-around-80-million-11559665936

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    Redistrubuting wealth will only cause the effective and innovative people to flee our society

  • Jan 14, 2020
    GIO GIO

    Bezos makes products that help millions and employs 750,000(!) people. I'd rather people like him and Bill Gates (trying to get rid of malaria) use their money to change the world. This is how we advance society.

    It's not that simple.
    There's also a lot of stuff amazon produces that we don't really need and the whole hyperconsumerism mentality takes a toll on the environment.

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    Synopsis

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/jeff-bezos-buys-fifth-avenue-condo-spread-for-around-80-million-11559665936

    80 million is nothing relative to 1 billion, which the first post is referring to. And it was referring to donating it (and it not mattering)

  • Jan 14, 2020
    GIO GIO

    Redistrubuting wealth will only cause the effective and innovative people to flee our society

    They not that innovative lol

    Bill gates made his money by monopolizing software basically not necessarily creating a better product

  • Jan 14, 2020
    GIO GIO
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    80 million is nothing relative to 1 billion, which the first post is referring to. And it was referring to donating it (and it not mattering)

    yeah there are very few things in this world if any that cost 1 billion dollars buddy.

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    i feel incredibly sad for some of u and ur potential future children

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    Synopsis

    i feel incredibly sad for some of u and ur potential future children

    Me and my potential future children are going to be rich living in a world where hard work is valued and rewarded, and those who change the world will be rewarded, rather than distributed to the poor

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    GIO GIO

    Me and my potential future children are going to be rich living in a world where hard work is valued and rewarded, and those who change the world will be rewarded, rather than distributed to the poor

    that's funny

  • Jan 14, 2020
    FRANK DUX

    lmao non skill labor is always paid at minimum wage

    you guys getting in your feeling about amazon work conditions fell for the bait

    most factory jobs offer way worse benifits than amazon, but they aren’t owned by the worlds richest man therefore u don’t get fed propaganda about them

    Thats cool. We should shut them down aswell.

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    Synopsis

    that's funny

    How much you make a year?

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    GIO GIO

    How much you make a year?

    i can't possibly find any way in which that is relevant.

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    Synopsis

    i can't possibly find any way in which that is relevant.

    Bet you didn't work your ass off for 20 years to get paid well I'll bet you that

  • Jan 14, 2020
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    Ooh here we go round two starting up

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    GIO GIO

    Me and my potential future children are going to be rich living in a world where hard work is valued and rewarded, and those who change the world will be rewarded, rather than distributed to the poor

    Hard work isn’t rewarded in current society

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