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  • May 25, 2021
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    CLB Fractions

    old town road debunks this whole thread.

    No one think OTR is best song oat.

    Guarantee someone does

  • The only ppl use hits as a measure of quality can't defend their favorite artist without it..

  • May 25, 2021
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    The notion of “popular = better” is far more pervasive in music than other art forms, and for interesting reason

    Songs are examples of the human condition that are largely enjoyed socially first and foremost, unlike films or paintings, which are enjoyed based on individual engagement with concepts above all else. If someone in real life with the highest social value is someone who is the most popular, then how do you think the highest value of a social art form will be gauged?

    On how popular it is

  • May 25, 2021
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    Why did yall give this troll a hit thread I'm guilty too but still

  • May 25, 2021
    FelaBaby

    like bro life is good listen to some hits some good music find you a pretty woman no need for all that weirdo mysterious s***

    Talk to em

  • May 25, 2021
    The Darkest Angel

    Why did yall give this troll a hit thread I'm guilty too but still

    were you knot here for the U2 thread

  • May 25, 2021
    The Darkest Angel

    Why did yall give this troll a hit thread I'm guilty too but still

    he's a funny poster bro

    op said he's better looking than everyone on this site

  • May 25, 2021

    Theres an argument to be made that sales in general can reflect better music given the fact that it can indicate how the music reaches a wider variety of audiences. Thriller is an example of this. It isn't always the case tho but people immediately discrediting sales but big up critics who just have an opinion and can be bias or misinformed arent helping music discussions. Regardless, most of these discussions are pointless. Opinions are opinions

  • May 25, 2021
    Kauket

    Need more debate please, some deeper reasoning instead of surface level debate, lets go deeper

    i like the spirit of this thread, but i feel like you're being a little obtuse with this. I agree that i wish different smaller, and (to some) more interesting artists would get more attention, but there is also some undeniable merit to AAA pop music. I like to think of pop music as a grand sampler platter where all the pop culture at a given time wells and is served to a mass public. This is amazing to me because it introduces more thornier or direct parts of music to a much larger audience. For instance lil durk being on a drake song may introduce a casual listener to chicago drill, and that might introduce them to king louie and that might introduce them to chief keef and then all the sudden they might see a whole connected circle appear and that'll leave the listener with not only a deeper understanding of the history of rap music as a whole but also a greater appreciation for the song that initially set them on this journey to begin with!!! Even from a personal standpoint I wouldve never heard of gil-scott heron if kanye didn't sample him on mbdtf in 2010 and thats what started my art journey when i was 15(also idk if this means anything to you but i got my bfa from calarts since i saw you were talking about your arts education before).

  • May 25, 2021
    The Darkest Angel

    Why did yall give this troll a hit thread I'm guilty too but still

    OP is the epitome of an elitist.

    That word gets thrown around on the internet too much but I think OP definitely fits that bill.

  • May 25, 2021
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    The Darkest Angel

    That would just exclude you for even being able to contribute to the vote are you seriously saying you wouldn't make your own opinion and just accept the list instead

    I promise it wouldn't turn out how you want

    Considering I am extreme left wing, no

  • May 25, 2021
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    The Darkest Angel

    Why did yall give this troll a hit thread I'm guilty too but still

    Y’all the worst w this bs

    “Why isn’t music sxn about music”

    Op made an interesting thread and has sat here for 20 pages discussing and defending their take

    And y’all just dismissing it as trolling because you disagree w that take and can’t be added justifying it

  • May 25, 2021
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    Cam Skattebo Fan

    thats because no one actually thinks like this

    No one studies the charts and says “hey this song is #3, this is now my favorite song”

    They listen to a song and they either like it or dont like it

    but they also don't listen to songs they don't hear..

    if the radio places 8 mid songs..you listen to what you like but you are also not listening to anyhing great.

  • May 25, 2021
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    why would "bad" music become extremely popular and loved by the majority?

    people who think hit records are somehow bad or unimpressive are a lot more ed than the reverse

  • May 25, 2021
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    OP is right though

  • May 25, 2021
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    BRAVE

    The notion of “popular = better” is far more pervasive in music than other art forms, and for interesting reason

    Songs are examples of the human condition that are largely enjoyed socially first and foremost, unlike films or paintings, which are enjoyed based on individual engagement with concepts above all else. If someone in real life with the highest social value is someone who is the most popular, then how do you think the highest value of a social art form will be gauged?

    On how popular it is

    This comparison makes no sense. Most popular in which society? If it's like the most popular person in school, not everybody would like that person, and people will have different opinions.

    Choosing to like this person only based on the fact that they're popular is sheep mentality. You didn't even judge for yourself.

  • May 25, 2021
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    NiceLikeChrist

    why would "bad" music become extremely popular and loved by the majority?

    people who think hit records are somehow bad or unimpressive are a lot more ed than the reverse

    Why is McDonalds popular?

    Capitalism

  • May 25, 2021

    Popularity =/= quality

  • May 25, 2021
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    safe

    You’re viewing this through the context of this site which is a music discussion site

    Of course people here know about pitchfork

    But almost everyone on earth listens to music and this discussion is about the whole population not the 0.1% of people who care about music so much they spend hours on a site about it

    Most regular people don’t know what pitchfork is or care what it says

    p4k is one of if not the biggest music site in the world. it gets referenced in pop culture and twitter all the time. if y’all think p4k is this underground site then oh man

  • May 25, 2021
    RESIGNED

    soulja boys got smackers cmon lk you’ve never lstened to one of hs tapes

    Only soulja boy mixtape I really listened to was the one with gucci bandana on it forgot the name

  • May 25, 2021
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    NiceLikeChrist

    why would "bad" music become extremely popular and loved by the majority?

    people who think hit records are somehow bad or unimpressive are a lot more ed than the reverse

    Tell me how Maroon 5 is popular then

  • May 25, 2021
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    I enjoy discussing high art with other fine high art connoisseurs. It’s a shame that so many low level casuals and normies had to infiltrate and infect the thread with their disgusting casual opinions. Go listen to Nickelback and Ed Sheeran.

  • May 25, 2021
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    The Darkest Angel

    Why did yall give this troll a hit thread I'm guilty too but still

    I really hope that OP is a troll because this is pathetic and sad

  • May 25, 2021

    Danny youre a b****

  • May 25, 2021
    Jerry Electricity

    I enjoy discussing high art with other fine high art connoisseurs. It’s a shame that so many low level casuals and normies had to infiltrate and infect the thread with their disgusting casual opinions. Go listen to Nickelback and Ed Sheeran.

    Truly.

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