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  • Mar 25, 2023

    Not just in terms of romantic or platonic relationships, I mean in the state of mind of being alone?

    What do you think are the genetic and/or environmental factors that lead people along lifestyles of being solitary, adverse from people, and maybe detachment?

    Outside of depression which is a common cause, I’m thinking more so people are relatively at peace with their mental states

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    Birdie

    Not just in terms of romantic or platonic relationships, I mean in the state of mind of being alone?

    What do you think are the genetic and/or environmental factors that lead people along lifestyles of being solitary, adverse from people, and maybe detachment?

    Outside of depression which is a common cause, I’m thinking more so people are relatively at peace with their mental states

    They live a life that has isolated them
    and spend their daily routine not interacting with others

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    grew up independent maybe without siblings

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    Crippling anxiety

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    whippet volverse

    They live a life that has isolated them
    and spend their daily routine not interacting with others

    What do you think are the factors underpinning that process of self isolation (again besides commonly discussed things like depression)

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    csr

    grew up independent maybe without siblings

    Agreed curious about getting an in depth look of this, if being a only child is healthy

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    x8485

    Crippling anxiety

    Do you think anxiety is more so genetic or related to trauma

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    Birdie

    What do you think are the factors underpinning that process of self isolation (again besides commonly discussed things like depression)

    came up in a recent breakup. i felt like i wasn't as reliant on the relationship because i grew up on my own and she had 2 sisters she helped raise

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    They read philosophy too early

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    Birdie

    Agreed curious about getting an in depth look of this, if being a only child is healthy

    meant to reply to this lmaoo

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    csr

    came up in a recent breakup. i felt like i wasn't as reliant on the relationship because i grew up on my own and she had 2 sisters she helped raise

    Same sorta for me but I actually forgot myself and became used to having somebody around being with her so much

    Took a long time before I felt like old self again who was in the natural state of being alone

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    Birdie

    What do you think are the factors underpinning that process of self isolation (again besides commonly discussed things like depression)

    I think it probably depends on the individual
    a lot of it is probably linked to depression though
    I could come up with a list of stuff but everything I'm thinking up is related to depression or trauma
    I feel like if being solitary was genetically linked, those people would be among the least likely to have children and be underrepresented in the population

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    TTU

    They read philosophy too early

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    Birdie

    Zola, Houellebecq, and Kafka at 17? Yeah you stood no chance

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    whippet volverse

    I think it probably depends on the individual
    a lot of it is probably linked to depression though
    I could come up with a list of stuff but everything I'm thinking up is related to depression or trauma
    I feel like if being solitary was genetically linked, those people would be among the least likely to have children and be underrepresented in the population

    This is kinda the thing I’m harping on internally if I’m meant to have kids or not

    If I’m gravitating to this natural isolated state and being with people and engaging feels forced, maybe it’s a genetic indicator of some sort I shouldn’t be looking to reproduce

    I’m not saying it definitely is, could be a self fulfilling prophecy but I certainly say the idea coincides well to my experiences and self reflections so far

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    TTU

    Zola, Houellebecq, and Kafka at 17? Yeah you stood no chance

    Too dumb to know the other two

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    ktt

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    In my experience when u have a vivid inner world, a lot of external stuff just don't hit tbh, especially if ur very smart, then u are only stimulated by people who are adequately smart or interested in smart people s***, and these ppl are rare so u get used to kinda hating most people for various reasons, eventually u get so used to being alone it's like scary to even consider opening up to others, ur personality doesn't develop properly, people notice and avoid u, ur only options now are to embrace who you are now, or work towards changing, the latter being lame because as I said most people suck so what's the point of opening up anyway

    Also we got the internet which definitely allows introverts to completely dissociate from inperson social life while still having social interactions

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    Lystra

    In my experience when u have a vivid inner world, a lot of external stuff just don't hit tbh, especially if ur very smart, then u are only stimulated by people who are adequately smart or interested in smart people s***, and these ppl are rare so u get used to kinda hating most people for various reasons, eventually u get so used to being alone it's like scary to even consider opening up to others, ur personality doesn't develop properly, people notice and avoid u, ur only options now are to embrace who you are now, or work towards changing, the latter being lame because as I said most people suck so what's the point of opening up anyway

    Also we got the internet which definitely allows introverts to completely dissociate from inperson social life while still having social interactions

    Safe to say I’m smarter in conventionally defined ways compared to the average person but accepting this line of reasoning I feel is risky for a few reasons

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    I can answer this. Not having a sibling relationship. Not having friends in your time in high school. Being a Video game addict.

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    some people are scared of intimacy and what intimacy demands of them

    vulnerability
    trusting
    availability
    self ego checking
    connection
    possibility of heartbreak

    etc.

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    Birdie

    This is kinda the thing I’m harping on internally if I’m meant to have kids or not

    If I’m gravitating to this natural isolated state and being with people and engaging feels forced, maybe it’s a genetic indicator of some sort I shouldn’t be looking to reproduce

    I’m not saying it definitely is, could be a self fulfilling prophecy but I certainly say the idea coincides well to my experiences and self reflections so far

    I have had similar dialogue with myself over and over as well. The only thing that I've definitively decided is to not force myself either way. I feel like years down the road if my mental state improves and i get more comfortable with interacting with others then honestly being a father is something I would enjoy and that it would be rewarding. But at the same time I know that as I am now, a y child I raise would probably be at a massive disadvantage in life compared to other people just bc of how my brain and personality are.
    I think that its useful to acknowledge where we are, and see whether progress is being made or not. The doomed outlook is not positive but it's something that has been kind of ingrained into me since my childhood. Its difficult to detach from without gaining new and more positive experiences to change my outlook

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    whippet volverse

    I have had similar dialogue with myself over and over as well. The only thing that I've definitively decided is to not force myself either way. I feel like years down the road if my mental state improves and i get more comfortable with interacting with others then honestly being a father is something I would enjoy and that it would be rewarding. But at the same time I know that as I am now, a y child I raise would probably be at a massive disadvantage in life compared to other people just bc of how my brain and personality are.
    I think that its useful to acknowledge where we are, and see whether progress is being made or not. The doomed outlook is not positive but it's something that has been kind of ingrained into me since my childhood. Its difficult to detach from without gaining new and more positive experiences to change my outlook

    The shared experience is comforting

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    Because it's significantly getting harder to meet people as time goes on.